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To: Condor who wrote (51573)	10/12/2002 6:00:08 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Respond to of 281500

BANG ON CONDOR. That's the problem.All most of those people know is this loonie represents Western Christian thinking. NOW! We have seen first hand, from the other side of the spectrum, what it must feel like to be a moderate and then be accused of being " evil ", just because you are of the same religion. By this standard alone,all Christians are now " evil " in their minds. And so it goes.

To: Condor who wrote (51573)	10/12/2002 6:02:37 PM
From: Condor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well, that didn't take long....... Shiite Clerics Enraged by Falwell By HUSSEIN DAKROUB 10/12/2002 15:07:37 EST BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - Shiite Muslim clerics in Lebanon and Iran have reacted with rage at the Rev. Jerry Falwell for calling Islam's prophet a terrorist and an envoy of Iran's supreme leader reportedly called for his death. Iranian cleric Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, addressing weekly Friday prayers in the northwestern town of Tabriz, said Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," the Farsi-language daily Abrar reported Saturday. "The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community," Shabestari, a representative of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was quoted as saying. In an interview broadcast last week on the CBS program "60 Minutes," Falwell said: "I think (Prophet) Muhammad was a terrorist". The conservative Baptist minister said he has concluded from reading Muslim and non-Muslim writers that Islam's prophet "was a violent man, a man of war." In Lebanon Saturday, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah called on Muslim countries to respond to Falwell who, he said, had "infringed on the prophet (Muhammad's) dignity." Fadlallah, however, cautioned against resorting to "physical violence" against Falwell, saying Islam is "a religion of mercy and love." In a statement issued in Beirut, Fadlallah also urged Muslims worldwide to counter what he called "a cultural war" launched against Islam following the Sept. 11 terror attacks in New York and Washington. Fadlallah, 67, has condemned the Sept. 11 attacks. He is a senior Shiite religious authority and a harsh critic of U.S. policies in the Middle East, a region where Arabs view America as being biased toward Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians. In August, Fadlallah issued a fatwa, or religious edict, banning Muslims from assisting the United States and its allies if they attack Iraq. He also urged Muslims to withdraw their money from U.S. markets for fear they may be frozen or confiscated. Earlier this week, another Shiite cleric in Iran, Ayatollah Hussein Nouri Hamedani, called on Muslims to cut relations with America. He accused Falwell of implementing "a Zionist plan" to cause a clash between Islam and Christianity. But other Muslim clerics held different opinion. "Although (Falwell's) opinion is insulting, he can be answered through dialogue so that all ambiguities in his mind are cleared," Iranian Ayatollah Hussein Mousavi Tabrizi said. Tabrizi refused to compare Falwell to British author Salman Rushdie, against whom the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the father of the Iranian revolution, issued a death verdict in the 1980s for blaspheming Islam in his book "Satanic Verses." "Rushdie is a symbol of the red line between Islamic countries and the West. But we will not issue a death verdict against the priest. Iran is a country that promotes dialogue among civilizations," Tabrizi told The Associated Press on Saturday. siliconinvestor.com C@iknowadumbshitwheniseeone.:0(

To: Condor who wrote (51573)	10/12/2002 6:08:52 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I wasn't interested in reading the entire Satanic Verses but my husband did, and says it's good. So I am not sure why you put Falwell into the same category. I've never had any stomach for any televangelist, period, but it's not my flavor of Christianity so not mine to say. But as you say, Falwell is put on TV so much that people assume he's mainstream. Whereas we know he's always good for a controversial opinion that keeps the talk show arguments going. It's like judging blacks by Al Sharpton. I wish they'd put a sock in his mouth.

To: Condor who wrote (51573)	10/13/2002 2:03:14 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

Falwell is a mess, and reading the leftist American press is the reason that "foreigners" think he is respresentative of the American religious attitudes. Heavens, any thinking "foreigner" should look at the Greater Seattle Council of Churches, some of whom sponsored the Baghdad Trio of " US Representatives" who seem to love Saddam, and then Falwell....What a terrific group, eh? That should confuse them, if they are really paying attention.