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To: epicure who wrote (62512)10/13/2002 10:28:57 AM
From: epicure  Respond to of 82486
 
By MAUREEN DOWD
Columnist
The New York Times
October 13, 2002

WASHINGTON — This has always been a place where people say the opposite of what they mean. But last week, the capital soared to ominous new Orwellian heights.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton voted to let the president use force in Iraq because she didn't want the president to use force in Iraq.

Giving Mr. Bush bipartisan support, she said, would make his success at the U.N. "more likely, and, therefore, war less likely."

The White House feigned interest in negotiation while planning for annexation without representation.

The Democrats were desperate to put the war behind them, so they put the war in front of them.

They didn't want to seem weak, so they made the president stronger, which makes them weaker.

Mr. Bush said he needed Congressional support to win at the U.N., but he wants to fail at the U.N. so he can install his own MacArthur as viceroy of Iraq. (Poor Tommy Franks may finally have to leave Tampa.)

Mr. Bush says he's in a rush to go to war with Iraq because it's so strong, but he's in a rush to go to war with Iraq because it's so weak.

In his Cincinnati speech, he warned of a menacing Iraqi drone that could fly across the ocean and spray germs or chemicals on us. But Pentagon experts say the drone could not make the trip and would have to be disassembled, shipped over, sneaked in and reassembled.

Mr. Bush said he wanted an independent 9/11 commission to investigate more broadly what went wrong with the government before 9/11. But now he's trying to kill the panel because he already knows just about everything went wrong before 9/11. He doesn't want us to know. Doesn't he know that we already know?

The president's father lamented in his diary in 1991 that his Persian Gulf war didn't have a clean end because "there is no battleship Missouri surrender." Now the son wants to skip the surrender and turn Baghdad into Houston East, putting a branch of the Petroleum Club at the intersection of the Tigris and the Euphrates.

Tom Daschle, Dianne Feinstein and other doubters came around on Thursday to the view that Iraq is an urgent threat after the C.I.A. director, George Tenet, sent Congress a memo on Monday stating that Iraq is not an urgent threat.

Mr. Tenet, a Clinton holdover, is desperate to please Mr. Bush. Senators joke that he gives the president intelligence briefings while polishing Mr. Bush's shoes. So the C.I.A. chief was embarrassed to find himself insinuating that W. is hyping his war.

After providing the smoking gun to show that Mr. Bush has no smoking gun, the usually silent top spook was frantically calling reporters on Tuesday night to insist that there's no daylight between him and the president on Iraq.

Let's see: Mr. Tenet says Saddam is unlikely to initiate a chemical or biological attack against us unless we attack him, and Mr. Bush says Saddam is likely to initiate a chemical or biological attack so we must attack him.

The C.I.A. says Saddam will use his nasty weapons against us only if he thinks he has nothing to lose. So the White House leaks its plans about the occupation of Iraq, leaving Saddam nothing to lose.

The president says Iraq is linked to Islamic terrorists so we must attack, while the C.I.A. says that Iraq will link up with Islamic terrorists only if we attack.

Mr. Bush says the war on Iraq will help us in the war on terrorism. But somebody forgot to tell the Osama lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahiri, who says the war on Iraq justifies more terrorist attacks. Mr. Zawahiri's taped message has incited Al Qaeda warriors to new attacks while we're preoccupied with our post-occupation.

When asked if Iraq in 2003 would look like Japan in 1945, Ari Fleischer said no, it would look like Afghanistan in 2002. But Afghanistan is now even more dangerous than the suburbs of Washington. We have lost interest in Afghanistan because we are too busy trying to turn Iraq into Japan.

The Nobel committee gave Jimmy Carter the peace prize as a way of giving W. the war booby prize.

Still, George Bush, the failed Harken oil executive, and Dick Cheney, the inept Halliburton chairman, will finally get their gusher.

One day, the prez was shootin' at a dictator bein' rude, and up from the ground came a bubblin' crude. Oil, that is. Black gold. Baghdad tea.

nytimes.com



To: epicure who wrote (62512)10/13/2002 1:21:17 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Our Fears Are Not A Reason For War

By Harold Meyerson
Sunday, October 13, 2002; Page B01

Did ever a declaration of war (or its functional equivalent) spring from a more dampered debate? It's not that there weren't impassioned speeches of opposition in both the Senate and House chambers this past week as Congress gave President Bush the unilateral authority he wants to wage war against Iraq. Critics of the administration's policy raised doubts about the Iraqi threat, the distraction from our war against al Qaeda, and the wisdom and propriety of preemption itself. Old Robert Byrd of West Virginia did a pretty fair imitation of Frank Capra's young Mr. Smith.

But there's an emotional undercurrent to the Iraq debate that was largely missing from this nation's earlier deliberations on war and peace, and that most certainly played no part in the wrangling over Vietnam. That emotion is fear -- in the Congress, but more important, in the nation as a whole. And the president has done a masterful job of exploiting it.

He tapped into that fear right at the outset of his much-anticipated speech Monday night laying out his case against Saddam Hussein's regime. "On September the 11th, 2001," he said, "America felt its vulnerability even to threats that gather on the other side of the earth." The bulk of his speech was devoted to demonstrating why Iraq was one of those threats, and he returned more than once to the al Qaeda attack to bolster his argument.

"Why do we need to confront [the Iraqi threat] now?" the president asked, raising the very question that his administration had so far failed to address. "There's a reason. We have experienced the horror of September the 11th."

The president's point was that if al Qaeda could commit those atrocities, so could Iraq, which has weapons of mass destruction, and is trying to get more, and is harboring terrorist groups, and has some al Qaeda members knocking around Baghdad, and . . . As you can see, the president had lots of points. He needed lots of points, because he lacked the one point that could prove that Iraq actually poses an imminent danger to the United States or to its Middle Eastern neighbors. As the CIA assessment that was declassified last week made clear, Saddam Hussein has shown little inclination or capacity to do the things we are determined to stop him from doing -- unless we attack to stop him from doing them.

So it's not the Iraqi threat that has changed that much since Sept. 11 -- Hussein's still a monster, and still containable. It's the United States that has changed, into a nation that no longer feels immune. Now, when we think of our national security, the collapse of the Twin Towers automatically replays in our national psyche. It has become a permanent nightmare whose potential recurrence informs -- or, in this case, clouds -- our judgment of the present.

In particular, Sept. 11 has made it more difficult for opponents of the administration's policy to argue that Iraq can be contained and deterred -- not because of the merits of the case, but because it is easy to make the containment argument look like the new-age version of Munich-like appeasement. And never mind that after 45 years of containment, the Soviet Union was appeased into collapse. Never mind that Iraq is not a terrorist group that can flee to the hills: It is a nation-state, it is the hills. It could suffer assured destruction just as the Soviet Union could have, and it wouldn't be mutual. Never mind, too, that inspection of suspected sites of Iraqi weapons production can be greatly stepped up. (Former Clinton State Department official Morton Halperin has suggested aerial bombing of any facilities from which the Iraqi government bars U.N. arms inspectors.)

So opponents of the Bush resolution largely steered clear of one of their strongest arguments -- that Iraq has been and can be contained. If opponents had had the CIA assessment of Iraqi capacities and intention at an earlier point, the debate might have taken a different course. But to question the magnitude of the Iraqi threat, even though there was ample evidence that Hussein's military force had degraded since the Gulf War, doubtless seemed too reckless without testimony such as the CIA's 11th-hour admission.

In the end, however, Bush's failure to make a convincing case gave rank-and-file House Democrats more freedom to vote their conscience and their judgment than anyone had anticipated. (Fully 61 percent of them opposed the resolution, as well as 21 of the 50 Democratic senators.) The spectacle of so many legislators voting counter to the collective wisdom of their political consultants, who had counseled them to stick with the president no matter what, was a heartening sight. The question in the months ahead is whether these maverick legislators will have the gumption to stay so discordantly off-message.

The Democratic leadership wasn't exactly champing to go into opposition to the Bush administration even before the White House started beating war drums this summer. Both House leader Dick Gephardt and Senate leader Tom Daschle had already decreed that the war and the Bush tax cut were distractions, and that the November campaign would center on preserving Social Security -- a poll-tested winner, particularly if nobody under 65 turned out to vote.

The irony is that while the Republican right has already tossed in the towel on repealing Franklin Roosevelt's domestic legacy, the administration is now waging a sudden and all-out attack on FDR'S foreign-policy legacy: the institutions and the standards of liberal internationalism that were set in place at the end of World War II. The National Security Strategy of the United States, which the administration unveiled almost simultaneously with the initial draft of its war resolution, proclaims a world order much newer than the one put forth by President George H.W. Bush in 1991. It is a world in which the United States is the model, arbiter and enforcer for the rest of the planet, in which America arrogates to itself the right to intervene preventively against any power it deems a threat.

There's probably little in the National Security Strategy that administration neo-cons such as Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Iraqi hawk Richard Perle haven't believed for years. But it's hard to imagine the administration daring to produce such a document absent the attacks of Sept. 11 and the sense of deep vulnerability they engendered. Certainly, the dismissal of deterrence as last century's defense doctrine is the direct result of the al Qaeda attacks -- though why deterrence should not still work against nations is left unexplained.

A full-scale debate on Bush's radical vision of foreign policy -- really, a debate over America's sense of itself -- is a matter of some urgency. Indeed, the administration's view of the world -- a dark, Hobbesian place in which only U.S. power casts a light -- requires the Democrats to either restate or reformulate some first principles.

Few things other than wars provoke such fundamental discourse. The Spanish-American War was accompanied by an impassioned national discussion of the propriety of our acquiring colonies and of how we differed from the European colonial powers. The debate over the Mexican War was part of the decades-long dispute between North and South. The division caused by Vietnam is ever present in our national consciousness.

The difference between those debates and the current one is the insecurity the nation feels at this moment. But if vulnerability to terrorism becomes a pretext for the projection of American power into states that may not be aggressors or don't pose imminent threats, we will have become something like the empire that our adversaries have long contended we are. No matter what happens in the months ahead, those who have opposed the war resolution (and some, I suspect, who have supported it) will now have to battle for a world ruled by something more politically, economically and morally sturdy -- and less vulnerable -- than American power alone.

Harold Meyerson is editor at large of the American Prospect, a biweekly journal of liberal opinion and analysis.

© 2002 The Washington Post Company



To: epicure who wrote (62512)10/13/2002 8:54:40 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 82486
 
How many dictators have:

invaded two neighbors causing the deaths of over a million people, fired ballistic missiles at civilians of two other countries, tried to have assassinated an ex-Prez of the US, harbored Al Quaeda and other terrorist fugitives, attacked civilians with chemical weapons, attacked the soldiers of an enemy country with chemical weapons, conducted bio weapons experiments on human subjects, committed genocide, and have weaponized aflatoxin, a tool of the most horrific sort of mass murder (slow agonizing death by liver cancer aimed at children) for which there is no other purpose.....????

Saddam has made the case himself for all who care to see it... and the justifications are anything but "flimsy" as the knucklehead who wrote that article stated. As for street demonstrations..... reminds me of the useful idiots who advicated the nuclear freeze. They were wrong then too....Anything worth having is worth fighting for.....