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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Imran who wrote (19228)10/14/2002 5:10:35 PM
From: lorne  Respond to of 27666
 
Imnan.. Usa and Canada fought on the side of moslems in kosovo because they felt moslems were being treated unfairly......And what did moslems do in return?? SEPT.11



To: Imran who wrote (19228)10/14/2002 6:00:42 PM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Respond to of 27666
 
all muzzies are militant. the moderates just dont know it yet



To: Imran who wrote (19228)10/14/2002 6:50:33 PM
From: AK2004  Respond to of 27666
 
lmran
re:christian serbs massacred muslim serbs (1991).
d'you know by any chance that conflict started after stronger muslim side massacred christian civilians. Christian mobolized and retaliated in kind.

Regardless of muslim initial war crimes that started the conflicted we sided with muslims to end the horrors.

muslims always object when someone respond in kind to their crimes. Let me also remind you that when muslim started to kill christian civilians it brought the memories of wwii when muslims served as local nazi police force and were responsible for exterminating good portion of christians and all of the jews in the area.

-Albert



To: Imran who wrote (19228)10/14/2002 7:32:44 PM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27666
 
Oregon suspect says he wanted to shoot Jews in America
Saturday October 12 1:23 PM EST

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - Federal prosecutors say they found Islamic books and printout from the Internet - including one titled How Do I Train Myself for Jihad - in the apartment of two suspected members of a terrorist cell.

The material was discovered in the apartment October Lewis shared with her ex-husband Jeffrey Leon Battle. Both have been charged with conspiring to wage war against the United States.

Battle also told an FBI informant he wanted to shoot Jews in America, a federal prosecutor alleged at a detention hearing Friday hearing before Judge Ancer Haggerty, who ordered Lewis held in jail until her trial - reversing a decision from a day earlier.

Lewis, 25, had been ordered released from jail Thursday pending trial after U.S. Magistrate Janice Stewart said she saw no evidence that Lewis was a flight risk or posed a threat to the community.

Battle, Lewis and four others were indicted in Portland last week on charges of conspiring to wage war against U.S. forces in Afghanistan and provide material support to the Taliban and al-Qaida.

U.S. Attorney David Atkinson said Battle first considered an attack on Jews on American soil shortly after Sept. 11.

Battle told an FBI informant during a conversation in the living room of his southwest Portland apartment on either May 8 or 9 that he wanted to "go for the synagogues," using two Kalashnikov assault rifles, Atkinson said.

Court documents state Battle told the informant he "planned to get away so we can survive and do it another time" but would be "willing to get caught or die if we could do at least 100 or 1,000, big numbers."

The four-count indictment against Battle, a nursing aide and security guard, includes no mention of the plan.

The indictment charges that a group of four U.S. citizens and one Jordanian - all Muslims with connections to Portland - set out for Afghanistan but never made it.

Prosecutors say Lewis stayed in Portland and wired money to the men while they were trying to enter Afghanistan through China. She wired a little more than $2,000 to Battle, and was aware that he would use the money to join the fight against America, prosecutors said.

Battle's court-appointed lawyer, Kristen Winemiller, was not in court Friday during the detention hearing for Lewis. Winemiller declined to comment on the case Friday.

Besides Battle and Lewis, the others charged with conspiracy to levy war are Habis Abdulla al Saoub, 36, who is at large; Patrice Lumumba Ford, 31, who was arrested last week in Portland and has pleaded not guilty; Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, 24, who turned himself in Sunday in Malaysia; and Bilal's brother, Muhammad Bilal, 22, who was arrested last week in Dearborn, Mich., and has pleaded not guilty.

In a separate case in Portland, a man arrested last month by an FBI terrorism task force was ordered released Friday by a federal judge after being held for more than a month on charges of Social Security fraud.

Sheik Mohamed Abdirahman Kariye was arrested on Sept. 8 at the Portland International Airport as he prepared to leave the country with his brother and children.

U.S. Customs officials initially said tests had found explosives residue in two of Kariye's bags; further tests conducted by the FBI ruled that out. Kariye has not been charged with terrorism-related crimes.

Kariye, an imam at the Islamic Center of Portland, was released on $250,000 bond which was posted by members of the Muslim community, said Stanley Cohen, Kariye's lawyer.