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To: Ilaine who wrote (24282)	10/16/2002 11:45:05 AM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 74559

<US newspapers did not show graphic images of the dead > Death is a very negative thing in our culture, to be avoided at all cost [except by using common sense and astaining from self indulgent behaviour]... it is much more accepted, even celebrated in other cultures. DAK

To: Ilaine who wrote (24282)	10/17/2002 4:01:52 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<This, to me, is far more savage and vicious than the attack on the WTC and Pentagon. It's kind of like rape. All rape is bad, but raping a child is worse. All murder is bad, but killing young men and women in the flower of their life is worse. > CB, I try to write stuff about it all and am sort of at a loss for words [surprising as that may be]. Not just about that event, but the overall context. No, I'm not about to go Montanan, but I'm concerned. I do not want to admit that Jay perhaps has over the past 18 months expressed some ideas which I do not want to become reality, but fear that they might. So far, so good [or bad]. His script is disturbingly close to reality. I am keeping an eye on GE's hemline [Jay predicted hairy legs]. There has indeed been continuing financial meltdown. There is in fact a missing Twin Towers and a lot more besides. There has been military conflict [albeit of a low level compared with previous efforts such as WWII et al]. We Western Baby-Boomers grew up in an era [and situations] which made the world seem a place of immense hope. Fortunately, babies are still being born so hope springs eternal. But I do not like the dissolving dream. [Which also happens to be the name of a book about a woman who married a guy from Uganda - it all went bad and she had to escape back to New Zealand: amazon.com ] I had best go and make some magical incantations, bay at the moon and stuff to get things back to normal. I will hope to avoid the America's Cup explosion - or maybe I'll go and catch some Moslem terrorists before they do it. I saw some today! The swaggering arrogance was not the Kiwi way [though we have plenty of the type, but they are Kiwi toughs, who are nasty and tough in a less virulent way]. I imagine the two young, tough, hard and unpleasant looking guys would be supporters of some infidel mayhem. They were not looking to express their feelings of peace, light, harmony, love, happiness and hope. Their motives were narrow, egocentric, Matrix of Malevolence, sexual and dominant. Body language talks, tone of voice talks, actions talk, though I couldn't understand their words. No, I'm not xenophobic, nor racist. Mqurice