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To: long-gone who wrote (90620)	10/17/2002 1:19:10 AM
From: ubetcha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116790

long-gone, OT "btw, now that we have seen some claim the vehicle firing the .223 may have been the AK-74 should we consider dismissing claims of those here who would disparage members of the US the Armed Forces?" The M1 was an extremely accurate rifle for its time. I would have taken it anywhere despite its weight. No matter how dirty you got it, it always fired, and where you aimed it. As far as the AR15 that they said this villian was using, I never thoght it was the same weapon that Doug AK and I used. Despite the accuracy reports of our beloved journalists, it was never meant as a sniper rifle. It was meant to fire as many rounds as possible as fast as possible, and rarely used at "targets" over about 50 yards. Other weapons were used for targets that were farther than this. Even with a scope it would be hard to be accurate at over 1/4 mile as the news reports. Since the bullet tumbles, wind and other factors affect its trajectory. Oh well, enough of that! I for one will not believe that the villian doing this is a member or trained by the military. I could be proven wrong, but think that it is only the liberal press talking. Terry

To: long-gone who wrote (90620)	10/17/2002 1:28:52 AM
From: ubetcha	Respond to of 116790

long-gone, OT "I fired my 1st M-1 Garand at age 14 on a 250 yd range at a military school and "qualified" with 6 of 10 in the "X" after but 20 practice rounds. On a range the weight should be considered an asset. I've even seen people using them afield (choked back to the legal 3 rounds) and doing very well on deer hog & elk - despite the great weight." One quick story. A few years ago, I took my 12 year old son and went to a range to zero in my deer rifle, a 6 MM that I had bought off a friend. It was a 150 yard range. I fired three rounds, adjusting each one. Then fired 3 to determine that I had it zeroed in. All three hit the x, and you could not even see separate holes. The guy next to me had fired over 20 rounds, and his were all over the target. When we left, my son asked me why I did not get his adjusted too? Made me one proud poppa. Of course he had to tell everyone he knew. Ha! Terry