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To: Neocon who wrote (62801)	10/17/2002 9:30:26 AM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I think you said that beautifully. How anyone could argue with that is beyond me, frankly.

To: Neocon who wrote (62801)	10/17/2002 9:42:12 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I'd agree with that (although I'd also say one has to recognize that one's conception of the flame of virtue is highly subjective). Of course my creation may not have a God, but aside from that, I agree with you. I bet Kholt would agree too.

To: Neocon who wrote (62801)	10/17/2002 11:46:54 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I agree with that, too, though I'd rewrite the sentence, for myself, with one word changed: I do think that the flame of virtue is based on a steadfast desire to leave the world better off for having inhabited it, and that that is based on a love of the world, and a concern for that portion one effects...... The reason I'd change "of creation" to "of the world" is that though many personify the forces that have created our world, I don't. I wouldn't need to change it; 'creation' would work in my sense, too; but it's the world I love, and not the process by which it was created, which, though tautologically necessary, is one that is predicated on suffering.