To: Jim McMannis who wrote (153587 ) 10/18/2002 10:02:25 PM From: i-node Respond to of 1580628 These liberals are looking awfully foolish on the North Korea issue. Strange thing is, the media is all but silent about it. I'm ready to hear just a couple of these media liberals ADMIT they were idiots. From AndrewSullivan.com dumb-old Bush: VON HOFFMAN AWARD NOMINEE: Alas, it goes to my friend Jake Tapper, who penned a classic early Bush administration piece in March of 2001 that mocked Bush for blurting out the crass, stupid, know-nothing comment: "Part of the problem in dealing with North Korea [is] there's not very much transparency. We're not certain as to whether or not they're keeping all terms of all agreements." Jake then cites plenty of experts mocking Bush's gaffe. One such anonymous foreign policy expert was asked by Tapper if he had any suggestions for Bush. The expert replied: "Not really. He said a really stupid thing. It seems obvious that he shouldn't say stupid things in the future." Jake makes some good points about Colin Powell getting ahead of the president and some early disarray in the foreign policy establishment. He also quotes Frank Gaffney for fairness. But the underlying tone of the piece is that we have this moronic president who doesn't know what he's talking about. We now know that we had a pretty smart president who saw what the foreign policy machers couldn't. In Powell's words at the time, "The president has made it clear that he understands the nature of regime in Pyongyang and will not be fooled by the nature of that regime and will view it in a very, very realistic, realistic way." When will Bush's critics begin to realize that they're not smarter than he is; and they ocasionally say some really stupid things? It seems obvious that they shouldn't say stupid things in the future. ======================================== Greatest President of Our Time: WORDS TO REMEMBER: "North Korea cannot be allowed to develop a nuclear bomb. We have to be very firm about it." - Bill Clinton, "Meet the Press," Nov. 7, 1993. ======================================== The Liberal Approach to Iraq: Diplomacy. Works great. VON HOFFMAN AWARD NOMINEE I: "Diplomacy with North Korea has scored a resounding triumph. Monday's draft agreement freezing and then dismantling North Korea's nuclear program should bring to an end two years of international anxiety and put to rest widespread fears that an unpredictable nation might provoke nuclear disaster. The U.S. negotiator Robert Gallucci and his North Korean interlocutors have drawn up a detailed road map of reciprocal steps that both sides accepted despite deep mutual suspicion. In so doing they have defied impatient hawks and other skeptics who accused the Clinton Administration of gullibility and urged swifter, stronger action. The North has agreed first to freeze its nuclear program in return for U.S. diplomatic recognition and oil from Japan and other countries to meet its energy needs. Pyongyang will then begin to roll back that program as an American-led consortium replaces the North's nuclear reactors with two new ones that are much less able to be used for bomb-making. At that time, the North will also allow special inspections of its nuclear waste sites, which could help determine how much plutonium it had extracted from spent fuel in the past." - The New York Times, wrong yet again, October 19, 1994. (The Von Hoffman Award is named after famed commentator Nick von Hoffman who boldly predicted the collapse of the Afghan campaign the week Kabul fell. It's for truly bad judgment or prediction among the punditocracy.)