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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (62983)	10/18/2002 6:38:56 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You can say he believes that, but I doubt that Neo would agree with you. Speaking of strike outs.

To: Solon who wrote (62983)	10/18/2002 11:19:57 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

So?

To: Solon who wrote (62983)	10/21/2002 11:07:07 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

That is a ludicrous misrepresentation of what I have said. Moral progress depends partially on non- conformity, but not arbitrary non- conformity, non- conformity that makes a case for itself. I favor the American Revolution, the abolitionist movement, the women's suffrage movement, the Civil Rights movement of the '50s and '60s, the Soviet bloc dissidents (like Solzhenitsyn, Sakharov, and Havel), and so forth. Nor do I believe that I am society, whatever in the world that means. I think I have a fair grasp of enlightened social norms, but I take various controversial positions, and therefore cannot claim to represent a pure consensus. Finally, as far as Holy Knees go, I have presented this whole process as natural, and I certainly do not believe that any particular state of society is warranted to be sacrosanct, or incapable of improvement. I do think that there is an eventual endpoint, at least asymptotically approached, but we cannot quite be certain we are there.......