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To: Mao II who wrote (53049)10/18/2002 7:50:19 PM
From: epsteinbd  Respond to of 281500
 
It strangely reminded me of articles where the word Irak or Saddam have replaced replaced: Hitler, Serbia, the Taliban.

Some professionnal journalists have it easy.
It's ain't manuscript no more, but menu-script.
And wrong!

If America does not win the war on terrorism within the next two years, it's obvious that the Rep will be re-elected, economy or no economy.

If they win, just the same.

If the rest of the world continues to believe in the Dollar, there be no economic collapse (besides if high level terror), and those in US in charge od $ take care of that $ every second of every minute on any market that's open.

So :

Somehow mister Lieven have a political lean for Democrats.
And it shows in his text. Thus his journalistic career is over, with me. He transgressed.

Not that I am personally concerned by the issue, but this person seems to want me to swallow his hot dogs like tekila. I have read those dialectics in the Pravda French Edition, it survived a year or so; and it was so stupid that it was interesting, sometimes, when we journalists wanted to have a laugh. (Worry not, we were not paying for it).

But I don't gulp. Sharks do. So we even get the Antechrist bit for the White Southerners VIP and Likudiks.

The Antechrist: WOW, this guy is plowing wide and deep. Because he has a public: those that didn't have the time to study the last hundred years yet... because they are too young.

This is the West, too.
Too bad. I had better hopes
Ten years ago...
But it'll be much better
Five years ahead
Or very different...

Anyway, welcome to our Brave New World, Mao...



To: Mao II who wrote (53049)10/18/2002 8:29:46 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Under the guise of National Missile Defense, the Administration - or elements within it - even dreams of extending US military hegemony beyond the bounds of the Earth itself (an ambition clearly indicated in the official paper on Defense Planning Guidance for the 2004-09 Fiscal Years, issued this year by Rumsfeld's office). And while this web of ambition is megalomaniac, it is not simply fantasy. Given America's overwhelming superiority, it might well work for decades until a mixture of terrorism and the unbearable social, political and environmental costs of US economic domination put paid to the present order of the world.

Megalomania. And we thought that was the domain of Saddam. In the Bush Admin case, it takes several to know one.

On Iraq and the war against terrorism, its approach seems to be to avoid at all costs seeming 'unpatriotic'. If they can avoid being hammered by the Republicans on the charge of 'weakness' and lack of patriotism, then they can still hope to win the 2004 elections on the basis of economic discontent. Calling people who disagree with them "unpatriotic, traitors and unAmerican" has been the domain of rightwingers who are threatened by facts and the vanishing oasis of their hopes of war. They've said it way too many times for anyone with common sense to buy it.

The Cold War led to the creation of governmental, economic and intellectual structures in the US which require for their survival a belief in the existence of powerful national enemies - not just terrorists, but enemy states. As a result, in their analyses and propaganda they instinctively generate the necessary image of an enemy. Once again, however, it would be unwise to see this as a conscious process. For the Cold War also continued, fostered and legitimised a very old discourse of nationalist hatred in the US, ostensibly directed against the Communists and their allies but usually with a very strong colouring of ethnic chauvinism yep, and now anyone Muslim, Islamic, Arabic looking is a pariah in this country. And Bush et al are doing more to promote than dissipate this race hatred.

What we see now is the tragedy of a great country, with noble impulses, successful institutions, magnificent historical achievements and immense energies, which has become a menace to itself and to mankind. I don't believe this because I feel that ultimately the spirit ofthis country and vision of its forebears will triumph over the greed and avarice of current politics.



To: Mao II who wrote (53049)10/19/2002 1:36:20 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 281500
 
Well, that was amusing.