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To: Ilaine who wrote (53447)10/20/2002 3:41:26 PM
From: Karen Lawrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
People who know explosives say it was impossible for a fertilizer bomb to have sheered that building. Most of us, including me, know nothing about explosives so we can be led to believe that the truck bomb could possibly have caused that damage. Black helicopters are actually dark green.



To: Ilaine who wrote (53447)10/20/2002 4:10:35 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
CB, re: <I spent several hours looking at stuff about the Oklahoma City bombing that are puzzling, but it's hard to tease it out from the black helicopter sites. It is claimed that the truck bomb could not have caused all the structural damage, and that there had to be more than one explosion.

Curiously, the seismic charts show what appears to be two explosions, ten seconds apart.
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Eyewitness accounts would say whether there was one or two explosions in Oklahoma. People on the periphery of the destruction would be able to say how long apart they were [if there were two, which I don't believe]. There would have been swarms of witnesses and they would not have had reason to lie and the usual wobbly memories would be able to handle a simple and shocking thing like "two big bangs" or "just one".

In regard to seismic charts, there are two waves, a p-wave and s-wave, propagated by different mechanism, so the waves arrive at detectors at different times, which helps in saying just how far away and where earthquakes occur.

If the detector you are commenting on was at the epicentre, it was destroyed, therefore, it was some distance from the explosion. Since you say it was 10 seconds between shocks, the detector's distance from the explosion could be calculated [I don't know the wave speeds though I'm sure Google could tell us].

At a wild guess, 10 seconds difference would mean the detector was, oh, let's say 500 km away? Good guess?

A truck full of diesel and fertilizer would do the damage I saw photos of. A truck-sized bomb is pretty big!

Mqurice



To: Ilaine who wrote (53447)10/20/2002 4:35:09 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 281500
 
My mother was three blocks straight south and six stories up in her office at the time of the explosion.

She heard one explosion.

Massive.

She didn't see the building collapse, but my first thought is that might have created the second seismic "disturbance".