To: RON BL who wrote (310014 ) 10/20/2002 10:59:05 PM From: MSI Respond to of 769670 The primary purpose of a common government as described in the Constitution is to provide for the common defense and arbitrate disputes. Assumed within the Articles and the Amendments is that the government will be honest and open, and within writings of the Founders is the clear prescription: "Do not trust government". The current administration have become subversives who operate in the shadows, extending a long line of practices since earlier last century, along with Congress, resulting in a secret, non-representative government in a parasitic paradise known as Washington DC. Also assumed by the Founders' writings is that the people may from time to time lay other tariffs and generate common funds for other common purposes. The problem is that government is becoming a $2 trillion swindle, having become extremely proficient at lying and deception, and justification by the millions of officials whose bread and butter is created by these deceptions they understandably learn to accept, agree to, and promote. Such government swindles as "social security", which is not insurance but a pyramid scheme, are so prevalent they are now considered "normal" by both perpetrators and victimized. All of those social programs you mention are not bad, per se, but (a)could be better done locally by community charities rather than sending $1 to Washington and getting back 30-cents for the purpose intended, and (b)have grownn to be pernicious actions by government to ensnare the maximum number of Americans into maximum dependency for maximum bureacratic and political gain. That said, (c)other countries' results demonstrate that these kinds of safety nets can be paid for cheaply and effectively, given proper political debate, motivation and openness. Considering probably $1 trillion/year is waste, fraud and abuse, I don't doubt it could be done w/in the current political framework, absent the current crop of parasites now in office. There's not a shortage of money, just a shortage of truth and people who care about being true public servants. Read "Dependent on DC" by Twight, and post what you think. It's an eye-opener. Re the quoted statement: Agreed, these "acts of benevolence" aren't what the Founders had in mind, certainly not the heroic scale being made permanent since FDR and LBJ. "Dependent on DC" has chapter and verse on incredible lies knowingly told by self-interested officials, from the beginning, unto this day, from prev. unpublished internal documents. With full disclosure and transparency on every public dollar, project and program, even these "acts of benevolence" could be afforded, or if not done nationally, the huge dollars represented by them would be in the communities' pockets, who can vastly more efficiently provide charity. The central government's role would then be simply providing honest unpoliticized information (unlike the crap we get now) on all states and citizen standards of living, to constantly inform the public.