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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: haqihana who wrote (310031)	10/21/2002 12:47:39 AM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

He very well could be a college professor. He sounds like one

To: haqihana who wrote (310031)	10/21/2002 12:50:42 AM
From: RON BL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

KGB Documents: Jesse Jackson, Ted Turner -- Too Close to the Soviets? Peter Schweizer's newly released book, "Reagan's War: The Epic Story of His Forty-Year Struggle and Final Triumph Over Communism," is getting the typical liberal press attention. We thought that might be due to the media's inbred hatred of Ronald Reagan. But we realize the real problem with Schweizer's book: Using actual KGB, Stasi and other secret communist party archives, he reveals that the U.S. media served as the lackeys for the Soviets -- and that major Democrats worked behind the scenes to help the Russians. Schweizer doesn't just allege this, he names names and has documents to prove it. NewsMax has already reported that Jimmy Carter sought twice, in 1980 and 1984, to have the Russians intervene and attempt to influence the outcome of the presidential elections. But it gets worse. Schweizer reveals that the KGB had a source who was a Democratic Party insider. He provided valuable inside information on Jimmy Carter and his policies. He was so senior that on one occasion the agent was part of a three-hour private meeting with only Carter, Gov. Brown of California and Sen. Alan Cranston. According to the KGB report sent to the Politburo, the agent had "direct and prolonged conversations" with Jimmy Carter. Schweizer also revealed that the East German Stasi had a source who worked for Jesse Jackson. According to Stasi files, this source provided information on politics and Washington and what he believed would be Washington's next step. "Indications are intensifying regarding a possible U.S. military engagement in Nicaragua," read a secret Stasi memorandum in 1984. "It has been learned from leading circles close to J. [Jesse] Jackson that the Reagan Administration is preparing for a direct armed intervention in Nicaragua." Schweizer reports that the Soviets and East Germans were heavily funding the peace movement and enjoyed considerable access in Washington. Two Soviet Bloc agents, Romesh Chandra and Gert Bastain, spoke before Congress and were guests at receptions held by Congressmen Charles Rangel, Ron Dellums, Gus Savage and Don Edwards. Chandra was a KGB agent; Bastain was on the Stasi payroll. Soviet penetration of the peace movement was so successful that one KGB agent, Georgi Arbatov, was appointed by Ted Turner to the board of directors of the Better World Society. The Better World Society soon after produced documentaries titled "Are We Winning, Mommy? America and the Cold War" and "A Step Away from War," which aired on Turner's TBS station. "A Step Away" was called "baldly propagandistic" by the Washington Post.

To: haqihana who wrote (310031)	10/21/2002 2:07:41 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

LOL! That reminds me of a joke: Supposedly a true story - the elderly grandmother comes in to Ellis Island from the Old Country. She is asked by her interviewer, "do you advocate the overthrow of the US government by force or sedition?" After a moment's thought she said, "sedition"

To: haqihana who wrote (310031)	10/21/2002 12:37:53 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

No, gotta disagree, Ray's doing the all-American thing of activism with the truth of his convictions. I'll also be protesting this administration's deceptive war profiteering. I strongly suspect the polls are b.s. & most Americans smell a rat. How many RWEs have you seen taking action to justify their position, such as signing up for battle, volunteering for neighborhood watch associations, etc. ? IMO, true Americans are those who care enough to participate in their country and have the cojones to find out what's really going on, in spite of the media, about concealment and destruction of evidence and efforts to avoid any investigation into 9/11. Maybe these guys in the administration are not crooks, but history indicates otherwise, and they sure continue to act like it. Bush didn't even consider Congress in his Royal effort in Iraq, it was only by pushing his nose up against the Constitution that a vote was gotten. I suspect that kind of force will be needed constantly to keep these arrogant types in line.