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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (63063)10/21/2002 11:31:12 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
If you still have time to edit your post, change the first WW II to WW I.



To: Neocon who wrote (63063)10/21/2002 11:42:18 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I wish I had time this week to get into a historical discussion, but I don't. Sadly.

I just note that some of the countries we have intervened in have at, to some degree or another as a result of our intervention, become significant enemies, or at least opponents. Our continued support of the Shaw of Iran when he was clearly becoming a tyrant had a major influence on strengthening the religious nature of the opposition -- if we had not supported him for so long, there is a good chance that his overthrow would have come much sooner and less violently, and resulted in a government at least neutral, if not favorable, to us. Our support of Batista in Cuba was downright evil. Not many people know that Castro came to the US to beg for America to stop supporting Batista, and our State Department wouldn't even give him an interview with anybody of any importance at all. So of necessity he went over to Russia for help, which was happy to provide it. Castro initially was quite a mild socialist, and would most likely have established a government perhaps friendly and certainly not overtly unfriendly to us. In country after country, we have supported corrupt dictators because it was to our economic advantage to do so.

Why do you think virtually every vote in the UN goes against us? We have remarkably few true friends around the globe. And no, it isn't just envy of our money and power. It's resentment -- even hatred -- at the bull-in-a-china-shop way we use them.



To: Neocon who wrote (63063)10/21/2002 11:51:24 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 82486
 
Whoops, I meant, of course, WWI for the beginning.....