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To: Ilaine who wrote (53677)	10/22/2002 5:16:24 AM
From: zonder	Respond to of 281500

CB - You have pointed out a very interesting distinction here. Cheers for that. In the West (...) people are more motivated by wishing to avoid feeling guilty (good vs. evil). In the Middle East, people are more motivated by wishing to avoid feeling shame and dishonor. Not only Middle East. Consider Japan, for example. Honor is so important that it was not unusual for a shamed man to commit hara-kiri, suicide by pulling out his intestines with a knife. And their definition of "shame" that would call for this would be far less than our standards of present day. In a guilt culture, what mattes is not doing wrong. In a shame/honor culture, what matters is not getting caught. You are missing one small point: In the guilt culture, what matters is still not getting caught - the omniscient God sees all, so you will certainly be caught if you do wrong. Still, this was a good point. Will you please read "Shibumi" by Trevanian? You will enjoy it, I feel.