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To: Alan Smithee who wrote (29286)	10/22/2002 11:17:05 AM
From: calgal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

Cal Thomas URL: townhall.com October 22, 2002 The ignominious appeasement award Alfred Nobel must have been a good man, full of good intentions. The science and literature prizes named for him recognize legitimate achievement in these disciplines. I do not doubt Nobel's sincerity in establishing a"peace prize" to honor people who pursue peace, even though it was born from his guilt at inventing dynamite. Too bad he didn't give us sufficient guidance as to what peace looks and feels like. The committee now in charge of distributing the money and awarding the medal with Nobel's likeness on it apparently doesn't understand real peace, either. If its members did, they would not have selected the likes of Yasser Arafat, Henry Kissinger and, recently, former President Jimmy Carter, who builds houses much better than he constructs peaceful relations between rival tribes, tongues and nations. In geopolitical terms, peace on Earth does not come from diplomatic goodwill toward tyrannical men. It usually follows a war in which profound differences are settled on the battlefield, and the evil regime is vanquished. That is what happened when the United States fought and won a hot war against Germany and Japan and a cold war against the Soviet Union. The greatest obstacle to peace in our time, or in any time, has been people who misdiagnose evil people and evil regimes. Such people believe that evil can be appeased. In fact, evil must be vanquished in and by every generation. The only way to accomplish that objective is to deliberately and forcefully oppose evil. We need an award for the well intentioned but self-deceived. Let's call it the Ignominious Appeasement Award. Unlike the Nobel Peace Prize, this award will be easy to define. To appease means"to buy off an aggressor by concessions, usually at the sacrifice of principles." Ignominious means"dishonorable; deserving of shame or infamy; despicable." Does this not describe what happened in America's dealings with North Korea? In the Clinton administration's 1994 agreement with Pyongyang (the one sealed by then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright who danced a celebratory jig in front of North Korean security guards), North Korea promised to freeze nuclear weapons development in exchange for two light-water reactors to be financed mostly by Japan and South Korea. The United States further promised to provide free fuel oil to help meet North Korea's energy needs. Work was well underway on the reactors when Pyongyang admitted last week it was not living up to its end of the deal and, in fact, had been moving ahead all along toward building a nuclear bomb. In other words (surprise!) Communist dictators lie. Jimmy Carter helped broker this deal. It was Carter who expressed surprise that the late Soviet dictator Leonid Brezhnev lied to him after Brezhnev ordered Soviet troops to invade and occupy Afghanistan in December, 1979. Undeterred by a lying Soviet dictator, Carter pressed on to work his magic with North Korea and saw his (and America's) pocket picked again. The fault in this equation is that good people think they can make bad people good if the good people give the bad people something, mostly economic aid and a teaspoon of"understanding" to flavor the corrupted brew. A hall of infamy could be filled with political, diplomatic, religious, academic and intellectual leaders who have put their faith in appeasement to forestall war, often seeing a worse war come about as a result of their naivete. The Nobel Prize includes a $1 million award for the recipient. The Ignominious Peace Prize would be accompanied by cash, too. It wouldn't be a cash award - it would be a fine. The recipient would be penalized for being so ignorant of the history of appeasement that he would risk the lives and freedom of others in a futile and counterproductive quest for"peace." The fine would go to the families of people wrongly imprisoned or executed by these regimes as partial propitiation for the naivete of do-gooders who ought to have known better. Jimmy Carter would be the first recipient of the Ignominious Peace Prize. Let's fine him $1 million so he can break even, which is more than the world is going to do because some stupidly trusted North Korea to abide by a treaty. ©2002 Tribune Media Services

To: Alan Smithee who wrote (29286)	10/23/2002 8:01:29 AM
From: sandintoes	Respond to of 59480

Too small, hey? They are world wide, and anyone who thinks otherwise, has their head in the sand...no pun intended. U.S. ID's Islamic Group As Terrorists Tue Oct 22, 6:38 PM ET By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Moving against Islamic extremists in Asia linked to the al-Qaida network, the State Department will list as a terrorist organization a group suspected in the Bali nightclub bombing that killed more than 180 people, a U.S. official said Tuesday. The Indonesia-based Jemaah Islamiyah, due to be cited Wednesday, has cells operating throughout Southeast Asia. It seeks to create an Islamic state comprising Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and the southern Philippines, according to report in May by the State Department's counterterrorism office. Listing the group as a terrorist organization will make it a crime to contribute funds to it and will bar its members from receiving visas to enter the United States. Before the explosions on the resort island of Bali on Oct. 12, the Bush administration had moved gingerly in dealing with Indonesia on terrorism. But President Bush (news - web sites) is expected to press for sterner security measures at a meeting with Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri at a conference with leaders of Asian and Pacific nations in Mexico this weekend. Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said after the blast, "You cannot pretend it (terrorism) doesn't exist in your country." Powell, who will participate in the meeting this weekend, said he hoped the attack "reinforces Indonesia's determination to deal with this kind of threat." Jemaah Islamiyah will become the 35th organization branded as a terrorist group by the State Department. This year's department report on terrorism said recent arrests of group members revealed links with the al-Qaida terror network. According to the report, the organization began developing plans in 1997 to target U.S. interests in Singapore. Last December, Singapore arrested 15 members, some of whom had trained in al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and planned to attack the U.S. and Israeli embassies and British and Australian diplomatic buildings in Singapore, the report said. Additionally, it said, Singapore police found forged immigration stamps, bomb-making material and al-Qaida documents in suspects' homes. Powell had announced a $50 million, three-year anti-terrorism assistance package during visit to Indonesia in August. The Bali bombing could prompt more U.S. help. The United States had warned Indonesia in early October that it was becoming a home to terrorists. And U.S. Ambassador Ralph met with Megawati to press for action against terrorist groups. Bush, meanwhile, said he hoped to hear in their upcoming meeting "the resolve of a leader that recognizes that any time terrorists take hold in a country it is going to weaken the country itself." "There has to be a firm and deliberate desire to find the killers before they kill somebody else," he said. The Bali bombing, which mostly killed Australian tourists, forced Indonesia's government to acknowledge for the first time that al-Qaida was active in the Southeast Asian archipelago. Some of Indonesia's neighbors, particularly Singapore, had complained Indonesia was reluctant to crack down on Islamic militants.