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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54020)10/22/2002 7:43:13 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Nadine Carroll; Re: "Israeli army M-16s do not have silencers."

I believe this.

Re: "Makes one doubt the veracity of the rest of the story (along the with complete absence of names, dates, or corroborating evidence)."

Most people can't distinguish between one rifle and another. But Israel is definitely using snipers to shoot Palestinians, and Israel's sniper rifles most definitely can come equipped with silencers (like most sniper rifles, I would guess):

GALATZ - Galil Sniper Rifle (Israel)
Galil sniper rifle (also known in IDF as GALATZ) is, basically, an improved Galil assault rifle, redesigned to fire 7.62mm NATO (.308win) cartridge. The changes made to original rifle made were:

- two stage trigger with semi-auto only mode of fire

- heavy target-style barrel with flash-hider and threads to accept optional silencer

- folding wooden buttstock, ajustable for lenght, with ajustable cheekpad

- fixed power 6X telescopic sights (quick-detachable mount is fixed on the left side of the receiver). Iron sights are kept in place for backup purposes.

GALATZ is manufactured in Israel by IMI, and is widely used by Israeli Defence Forces.

Tactically, GALATZ is much closer to "tactical support rifles" such as famous Russian SVD or German G3-SG1, rather than to true "sniper" rifles such as US M24/M40's, or Mauser 66 and 86's, also used by IDF (Israeli Defence Forces).
world.guns.ru

-- Carl

P.S. Also see:
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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54020)10/22/2002 11:32:04 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
You're a trip, Nadine. The story was full of names and dates and places, including that particular incident. Sorry that it doesn't suit Israeli propaganda purposes. You may now return to your job of relaying the "truth" according to such reliable sources as Debka and andrewsullivan.com.