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To: Berry Picker who wrote (33748)	10/25/2002 1:27:52 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Brian, Thanks for attempting to shorten your posts, however I think I need to point out that they are still very long and somewhat arduous to read. It would really help if we would leave the extraneous stuff aside and just deal with one point at a time. Although you stopped numbering your points at two, it seems to me that you then went on to make several more. Of course I realize the importance of setting the stage for our dialogue, so I will take this opportunity to let you know where I'm coming from. First: I am not a "Partial Preterist",(here-forth P.P. for the sake of brevity). I am Reformed/Baptist in most areas, but lean to dispensational eschatology. Although I see some exegetical merit in their position, in general I think the conclusions of the P.P. are inconsistent. Namely, by objecting to so called "gaps" in certain texts, but then manufacturing a whole slew of their own. Therefore I will grant your term "Consistent Preterist" (Here-forth C.P.) and I will not try to defend a position I do not agree with. One thing however that the P.P. has that C.P. does not, is the first point that Gentry makes, chiefly the C.P. position fails to agree with both the historic and creedal position of the church. This is a serious and damning charge all by itself and one that should not be just cast aside casually. I am in the midst of taking a graduate course in Church history, and I have not run across anything like the C.P. position. Surely an event of such importance as you claim, would have been front and centre in the writings of the early church fathers, yet they all seem to be premillenial and futurists up until the time of Origen. Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John, Where is his testimony that would substantiate the C.P. position?. The Apostles creed and the Nicene creed are both clearly looking forward to the return of Christ and the resurrection. If you wish to camp on a point this would be a good one to start with. In other words, "where's the beef?" Have a good day. P.S. Besides the course I'm taking I work, teach three classes a week, play hockey two nights, and am active in my Church so, brevity my friend brevity! Greg