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To: Sir Francis Drake who wrote (54448)	10/24/2002 4:44:40 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

You ignored the very substance in the links I gave you, Sorry SFD.. I tried to find some, but it was like looking for diamonds in a landfill... :0) The substance is that Palestinians are really "abandoned" Jordanians who suddenly want their own state. To obtain that state, they have two choices.. violence, or peaceful negotiations with the presiding governmental authority over those abandoned territories, Israel. They have the right to fight, but as I stated previously, there are consequences to exercising such a right. And those repercussion include completely being denied the geographical boundaries they originally desired, and possibly being denied statehood entirely, being relegated to an "autonomous province" of Israel. Do you have something against a "Ghandi style" strategy?? Do you not believe that were the Palestinians to be utterly non-violent, but remain politically active internationally, that they could shame Israel into ceding the remainder of the pre-1967 territories?? They would certainly ellicit far more support from people like myself. And don't you have any qualms about the UN just waving it's magic wand and permitting a state to be created where the population overwhelmingly advocates suicide bombings against civilians?? Doesn't the UN bear some responsibility for preserving the security of Israel when they make such demands for the creation of a Palestinian state?? Those are substantive talking points, SFD... Btw, next time you wish to engage in a "battle of wits", it would help you to be firing something other than blanks. Hawk