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To: Thomas M. who wrote (16125)	10/25/2002 1:33:47 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Kuwait was never part of Iraq. It was part of the Ottoman Empire when Iraq was part of the Ottoman Empire, and had its own historic claims, like the United Arab Emirates, to independence, with the devolution of that Empire after the First World War. Even if Panama had not been part of the United States, so what, we did not annex it, we dealt with a dictator who had grown too cozy with drug traffickers bringing their wares into the United States, and installed the last winner of a legitimate election. Whether or not a country has invaded another at some time in the past is irrelevant. What matters is historical context and the particular causes of the action. Besides, once upon a time, we had legal slavery in this country. Does that make it impossible for us to denounce slavery in the Sudan now? Of course not. But finally, it is the duty of the government to address the security needs of the country. If it deems it necessary to deal with Saddam, so be it.....

To: Thomas M. who wrote (16125)	10/25/2002 1:47:46 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Neo already answered this for me. Kuwait was never part of Iraq (unless you count the short period of time after the early 90s invasion when Iraq controlled Kuwait). Neither did Saddam. He backed out. I'm sure the VII Corps had nothing to do with this... The U.S. committed numerous invasions in the past. Thus, it disqualified itself from being an authority on the matter. Kind of like the way felons aren't allowed to vote. If bad actions in a countries past keep them from having an opinion on or being an authority in these things then any country who has ever had significant power and many of those who have not are disqualified. Felons are not allowed to vote because our government has determined that they should not. Committing a felony does not directly take away your moral right to have a say in how you are governed it takes away your legal right to vote. There is no government to make such a determination about nations or to grant or take away legal rights. And it was precisely simultaneous with the CIA presence in Kuwait, which was part of the setup of Saddam. I think the idea that the CIA set up Saddam to make him invade Kuwait is a paranoid fantasy but even if it is true it doesn't change anything, it would not give Saddam a right to invade Kuwait or to violate the cease fire agreements. Tim