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To: JohnM who wrote (54667)	10/25/2002 2:02:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John, I said that the true subject of the piece was denial, and you replied Nadine. It appears that what you wanted to do is put up a post which argues that folk of any political persuasion who disagree with your notion of the "facts" in the ME, have a psychological problem This is an extremely defensive reaction imo (also a clearly untrue one, as we weren't discussing my notions, but the notions of the author of the speech), followed by your usual yellow carding of points you don't like This is not conversation. Simply trying to label folk who disagree with you. and this your earlier contention that that folk who disagreed with you could be considered traitors to the US. is just a pure canard. I have never thought or said any such thing. I defy you to find a quote. All of us who perceive a major disconnect between reality and the analyses of the Left (the author was right, the Right is filling up with refugees) have a civilized duty to ignore the subject, according to this analysis. As they would say in Israel -- lama mi met? -- who died and made you king of what is, and is not, to be considered "conversation"? It is one thing not to want to discuss certain subjects. Nobody can make you talk about it if you don't want to. But where do you get the moral high ground for this huffing and puffing?

To: JohnM who wrote (54667)	10/25/2002 2:21:35 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Great interview with Hitchens on Orwell in the Atlantic Atlantic Unbound \| October 23, 2002 The Power of Facing Christopher Hitchens, the author of Why Orwell Matters, depicts George Orwell as a nonconformist who resolutely faced up to unpleasant truths theatlantic.com