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To: LindyBill who wrote (54763)10/25/2002 11:07:41 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Bellingham Herald connects some dots. John Mohammed was getting money from somewhere:

news.bellinghamherald.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (54763)10/25/2002 11:18:57 PM
From: Condor  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Talking about guns .........

The US has over three times the number of guns per capita as Canada; the number of handguns per capita is 63.3 times higher. The rate of murders with firearms in the US is eight times higher than Canada.

In the US in 1998, guns accounted for over 38,000 deaths. (talk about weapons of mass destruction)

safety-council.org

C



To: LindyBill who wrote (54763)10/28/2002 6:48:00 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi LindyBill; Re the Berretta and the military.

There is essentially zero military significance to pistols. I'd love to find statistics on how many (enemy) soldiers actually end up shot with the things. My guess is that it would be damn close to zero. Their primary use is in keeping one's own troops in line.

(There are exceptions, who was the guy in WW1 who captured a German company while armed only with a .45?)

The things to worry about are stuff like the Crusader artillery. My understanding of the Berretta was that it won a grueling competition between various pistols, but the whole idea was to convert to a NATO round.

-- Carl

P.S. It is a hilarious description of one of the pistol's issues:

Trigger springs broke often and we lost quite a few takedown lever studs and springs. This little beauty would fly out, never to be found, and on the next round fired, the takedown lever would fall down and the entire top-side would be launched down range. Imagine trying to build confidence in a new shooter when the top half of their weapon is sticking out of the ground like a grave marker?
hackworth.com