To: Patrick Slevin who wrote (9702 ) 10/27/2002 2:26:30 PM From: Lost1 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57110 this should make a few hurl ..lyrics and a cheesy waveusers.cis.net more: before Donna Summer recorded her discofied version of Jimmy Webb's "MacArthur Park," Richard Harris took the song to number two on the Billboard Hot 100 pop chart in June, 1968. But "MacArthur Park" has a strange history that pre-dates the Harris version. It begins in the summer of 1967, when Webb wrote a 22-minute cantata that ended with a seven-minute coda called "MacArthur Park." Bones Howe became friendly with Webb when they worked together on the Fifth Dimension's Up, Up and Away album. After that, Howe went to work producing the Association and Webb was hired by Johnny Rivers to produce the Fifth Dimension's concept LP, The Magic Garden. When problems arose between Webb and Rivers, Howe was asked to come in and produce the vocal tracks. "We finished that album together," Howe notes. "During the last four weeks, Jimmy got this idea to do a cantata. He said... 'I'm gonna write a cantata, and it's gonna be 22 minutes long, and be the whole side of an album, and it'll be broken up into little pieces that could be singles.'" Webb suggested the Association would be the perfect group to record the cantata. "Finally we got The Magic Garden album finished and he really dug into the cantata and worked on it full time after that... I set up a meeting with Jimmy and the Association. We were in studio three at Western, and he came in and... played on the piano through these pieces that he hand worked and sang them and went back and played countermelodies, and showed them various things he had in mind for this cantata. It was just a wonderful piece of music. They listened and said, 'Because it's gonna take up the whole side of an album, we'd like to talk about it.' So Jimmy excused himself and walked out of the studio. They closed the door and somebody in the group -- I don't remember who -- said, 'Any two guys in this group could write a better piece of music than that.' I said, 'You guys are crazy. This is a wonderful concept'... they said, 'Yeah, but we'd have to give up the whole side of an album.' I said, 'This is a great possibility to go forward creatively and do something which nobody's done before.'" "It was left to Bones to break the news to Jimmy. "He was really crushed by it," Howe remembers. The Association wrote all their own songs for their Birthday album. "I kept saying to their manager, 'There's not one song here that's as good as the cantata that Jimmy brought in. We ought to go back to him.'" The answer was no. Webb took the last movement of the cantata -- the seven-minute coda -- and produced it for Richard Harris.