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To: Just_Observing who wrote (54882)	10/27/2002 1:44:24 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

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To: Just_Observing who wrote (54882)	10/27/2002 2:37:13 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

The Detroit Free Press on Senator Wellstone... He put clear beliefs into service for his state, nation Editorial The Detroit Free Press October 26, 2002 freep.com Twice in two years, a popular politician has died seeking the votes of the people he chose to serve. U.S. Sen. Paul Wellstone, a maverick Democrat, died with his wife and daughter just 11 days before the Nov. 5 election -- an eerie echo of the 2000 plane crash that killed Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan 18 days before Election Day. Wellstone's death Friday heightens the fight for Senate power, where one person can tip the Democratic majority; Republicans had targeted his Minnesota seat as vulnerable. Behind the scenes, scrambling may already have begun, but publicly, at least, all either party focused on Friday was the nation's great loss. At 5-foot-5, the former college wrestler never stopped fighting for the little guy. He campaigned passionately for mental health care, human rights, workplace protections, veterans and the environment. Considered too liberal by many -- the left-leaning Mother Jones magazine labeled him the "first '60s radical elected to the U.S. Senate" -- the vibrant populist was universally respected. Self-deprecating and genuinely likable, Wellstone worked to build relationships while sticking to his heartfelt beliefs and fighting good fights. He was the only Democrat in a competitive race to vote against war in Iraq. "Wellstone is one of those senators who cares more about advancing principles that he hopes will some day triumph than in winning easy victories in the short run," the Almanac of American Politics said. This time of year, as election politics grow so ugly, it's easy to become cynical and lose sight of the hours and miles politicians log. Paul Wellstone made those sacrifices tirelessly because he believed in the service part of being a public servant. It shouldn't have taken his death to remember what champions of the people politicians can be.

To: Just_Observing who wrote (54882)	10/27/2002 11:41:59 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

From what I remember, the fighter jets were next to the plane in just 20 minutes at 30,000+ feet after communication was lost. If they scrambled so fast, I wonder why they didn't catch up to the plane till it reached Memphis. I took the ABCNEWS aviation analyst to be a knowledgeable source: ABCNEWS aviation analyst John Nance told ABCNEWS.com chat participants this afternoon, “There is no set procedure for the Air Force or Navy to scramble an armed fighter for [that purpose] & simply because it’s an unprecedented occurrence.” I think our military has been oriented to defending against external threats not internal ones. I'm sure changes need to be made (and I hope they have been) in our internal security practices and procedures. We have had planes crash into the WH lawn and into the Pentagon now. It's a giant mistake to take a surprise attack as evidence of a government conspiracy. Similar charges are made about Pearl Harbor - and they are just as groundless. People subscribe to these theories because they are attracted to the idea of demonizing this or that administration - not for rational reasons.