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To: JohnM who wrote (54977)	10/27/2002 1:58:45 PM
From: Win Smith	Respond to of 281500

I assume Powell has a fairly thick skin by now and these things don't deny him anything. He may even find them funny. With all the dumping the neocons have done on Powell in the past year, I imagine he has quite the thick skin. Heck, even wimpy neo-liberal Kinsley was dumping on him for leakage contrary to the war party line a few weeks ago. The local bunched-undies thing with Belafonte is one of the stranger group think episodes I recall here, and with all the Debka-style "dot connecting" that happens, that's saying something.

To: JohnM who wrote (54977)	10/27/2002 2:09:20 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

but the view is not all that unusual in some black circles. And that makes it right?? The white view of blacks in many parts of the south are considered "racist". Should they use the same logic you appear to be using?? That it might be stupid, but it's forgivable because it occurs in "white circles"?? This is insulting on two levels. First it diminishes Powell's achievement merely because his views don't match Belafonte's. And Powell can't counter with a reciprocal analogy about Belefonte because it's beneath his dignity. Secondly, it implies that Bush is a slave master with a few token blacks, something I would personally find VERY offensive were it directed toward myself. But Bush has been MORE progressive towards placing QUALIFIED blacks in high positions of responsibility that was even the Clinton administration. Why not just call it racism John?? Why even dignify it as merely "dumb"?? As for "my prejudice," I gather you think that folk who don't agree with your view on this are prejudiced. Nope. Just morally compromised. At least with regard to the topic at hand. I don't have to agree with your views John.. But neither will I use some form of "race-baiting" to claim that you've been handed your position by virtue of meeting some equal opportunity quota if it's plainly apparent that you have more than sufficient qualifications for the job. What Belafonte said was despicable.. But despicable as it is, it is surpassed by your vain attempt to dignify Belafonte's actions... Hawk@sickofracebaitersandthepeoplewhodefendthem.com

To: JohnM who wrote (54977)	10/27/2002 3:31:52 PM
From: epsteinbd	Respond to of 281500

JohnM, don't you think that sometimes, when the pressure gets too high, Bush pushes Condolizza into the Clinton Suite, while Powell does the human ventilator like in the good ole days; while some scratched record of the Bellafonte dude covers the master tarzaning the Rice bowl ?