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To: zonder who wrote (55110)	10/28/2002 4:48:29 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

but whether or not the Russian forces were negligent and caused unnecessary deaths. Typical Russian action left over from the old Soviet. I have not heard if there even is an antidote for this. Putin is going to take it in the Chin if there was and it was not released.

To: zonder who wrote (55110)	10/28/2002 10:08:36 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Agreed that the chance had to be taken in Moscow, but: Very thoughtful post, zonder. Thanks.

To: zonder who wrote (55110)	10/28/2002 10:57:39 AM
From: Win Smith	Respond to of 281500

Meanwhile, on the first casualty front, there was this rather stunning in retrospect quote from the official Russian mouthpiece. Vasilyev, the deputy interior minister, said none of the 67 initial victims died from gas poisoning. He said nine died because of heart problems, shock or lack of medicine. story.news.yahoo.com

To: zonder who wrote (55110)	10/28/2002 11:37:09 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

How much time did Moscow have to plan an action against the terrorists? 56 hours, I think is the number. At what point did Moscow authorities realize that "discussing" the matter with the terrorists wouldn't work? How many hours inbetween that realization and the pumping of gas into the building? How many people were working on the ventilation systems and how long did that take? Is there an antidote for the gas? What form was an antidote to be administered? Where would it come from--How far away? How long would it take to get the necessary equipment and the antidote ready for 750+ people? zonder, if a terrorist group came to your country, and decided on a similar stunt, is your country ready?? With gas and hopefully an antidote for ALL your citizens who are held hostage? Or do you just let the terrorists blow up whatever and whoever they want? And many other questions come to my mind. The longest time would be 56 hours, and possibly the shortest time would be 12 hours, when the terrorists announced they would start killing the hostages if their demands weren't met. There were 800 hostages in that theater, and we are of course glad that they did not all die. However, more than 100 are still in reanimation in hospitals, 45 in critical condition, and another 118 is dead in the attack of Russian forces, and only two were from gunshots. The rest could have been prevented with ready antidotes to be administered right away. I think this is the issue at hand here - not whether or not attacking was the right thing to do, but whether or not the Russian forces were negligent and caused unnecessary deaths.