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To: Alan Whirlwind who wrote (16128)	10/30/2002 12:12:07 PM
From: Alan Whirlwind	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82066

Ventura Upset Over Wellstone Service .c The Associated Press ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, upset by what he felt was a partisan tone of a memorial service to honor the late Sen. Paul Wellstone, said he will try to appoint an independent instead of a Democrat to fill Wellstone's seat until a new candidate is certified. Ventura had said he favored a replacement from Wellstone's party, but that was before he walked out of Tuesday night's memorial service. Ventura referred to a speech by one of Wellstone's closest friends, Rick Kahn, in which Kahn said to the crowd, ``I'm begging you to help us win this Senate election for Paul Wellstone.'' ``I wanted to hear the sons. But Rick Kahn's, I found his so offensive to me as an Independent, or to anyone who is not necessarily going to vote for Senator Wellstone who still respects him and came to pay their respects,'' Ventura said. ``It drove the first lady to tears.'' ``I will try to find an independent,'' Ventura said Wednesday on a talk radio show. He did not say who he might name. A temporary appointee would fill the seat until Tuesday's election results are certified. Democrat Walter Mondale is expected to enter the race against Republican Norm Coleman. 10/30/02 11:26 EST Copyright 2002 The Associated Press.

To: Alan Whirlwind who wrote (16128)	10/30/2002 2:50:34 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82066

Al >Despite heavy international and internal pressure on the Russian government to reveal the identity of the gas, they have so far refused. It seems they have relented, somewhat. story.news.yahoo.com >>>Russia's top health official insisted that the compound, based on fast-acting opiate fentanyl, was an anesthetic that by itself could not cause deaths.<<< I am quite familiar with Fentanyl which is a solid substance which has been used intravenously as an anesthesia supplement for 25 years. It was certainly not something one would have used as a sole agent during normal surgical anesthesia because it does not usually depress consciousness. When used in the "normal" way its actions are virtually identical to a whole range of opiates which include morphine, demerol (pethidine) and heroin. nlm.nih.gov If the Russians have made a gas from it, especially something as potent as that which we have just observed, it represents a considerable advance in chemical technology. It was unfortunate that it was used in the hostage drama in very high concentrations which were clearly sufficient to cause loss of consciousness. In fact, it was the loss of consciousness which was likely to have been the cause of the complications and deaths observed, and not the drug, itself.