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To: stockman_scott who wrote (18031)	10/30/2002 2:12:55 PM
From: elpolvo	Respond to of 104181

Just wondering- i agree with altie. as to the black box(s)... they weren't required and they don't prevent crashes anyway. the weather was very crappy... i heard there was freezing rain. i say pilot error compounded by adverse weather conditions. 99.99% probability. it would be very silly to base a story of wild ass guesses and accusations on the remaining .01% probability. the FAA is very thorough in their crash investigations, but it will take a year for them to state that the cause of the accident was... "pilot error compounded by adverse weather conditions." -el errorprone

To: stockman_scott who wrote (18031)	10/31/2002 10:57:56 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104181

OK, Polvie, I wasn't gonna out mice elf, but that was about my second thought after I heard the news. (My first was "effing eh, Shrub owns the senate"). Didn't hear that thought again until I bumped into a friend the next morning, who started out her conversation with "Well, they killed another one". Too many dirty tricks by the spy guys. She also said a friend told her that a country that voluntarily elects the head of the secret police as the president deserves whatever it gets. IMO, it applies to the son of the secret police,too. Yeah, I've gotten cynical. Rat PS The first time I thought about something like this was during Nam. A plane with Sen. Hale Boggs (father of Cokie Roberts) and Walter Reuther, pres of the UAW, went down in Alaska. Both were staunch foes of Nixon, and I think the UAW had just come out against the war. Call me paranoid, but the FBI is now known to have been tweaking with the Free Speech Movement at Cal, so my earliest paranoid fantasies have been confirmed. (Also, the feds were testing germ warfare off the coast of San Fran; I think the bug was Serretia (sp?). Yeah, I am one paranoid sicko. Who killed Davy Moore? How come he died and what's the reason for? Who killed Norma Jean? Keith Moon killed Who.