To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (33875 ) 11/4/2002 1:57:43 PM From: Greg or e Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621 Emile you seem well read. However reading and understanding are not necessarily the same thing. You seem to have misread church history and also have an sub biblical view of inspiration and Apostolic succession. "There was no New Covenant canonical Word when the First Council of Acts ch. 15," Perhaps not technically, but then you had living Apostles with direct and infallible interpretations of Christ's teaching. These teachings were written down very early and was the word of God from inception. Inspiration happened at the giving of the word, when it was originally spoken or written. The Cannon of scripture was recognized not established by the Church. Apostleship is not transferable, any cursory reading of early church history and the patristic fathers immediately demonstrates the fallibility of their various and sometimes contradictory teachings. BTW 325 A.D. is several generations removed from the Apostles. The first ecumenical council was itself necessitated by just such disagreement between various bishops who, get this, all claimed Apostolic succession! If you are consistent in your views of Canonicity and Apostolic succession, you should be a Roman Catholic, is that the case? If so, then you have more problems to add to your somewhat lengthy list. We accept or reject teachings of church leaders (including creeds) based on fidelity to Scripture alone, not on some faulty view of authority. On that basis the Nicean/Constantinopolitan creed is accepted as a valid summation of Biblical doctrine. Therefore we can and should receive these creeds while legitimately questioning teachings and teachers that do not conform to the standard of Scripture. P.S. you never answered my last post. Do you have an answer, or are you content to just ignore valid questions? Greg