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To: LindyBill who wrote (55731)11/4/2002 3:16:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Using Palestinians as human shields is reprehensible.

This one I tend to believe. The whole camp had been turned into a minefield. Those civlians who stayed had to know which houses were mined and which were not. So I believe the Israelis ordered civilians to open the door.

Of course, Amnesty's report talks as if Israel committed its "war crimes" in a vacuum. Is there another country on earth that would charged with "war crimes" in a battle where the total casualties were 79? Has anybody been charged with "war crimes" in Algeria? They castigate Israel for preventing ambulances from coming in without a word on the Red Crescent's track record for transporting guns and gunmen. And I'm sure we'll read of how they swallowed "the corpse that walked" stories.

This is more "affirmative action" in warfare. The Pals get carte blanche, the Israelis are judged by super-sensitive democracy standards.



To: LindyBill who wrote (55731)11/4/2002 4:04:16 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Maybe the CIA is starting to use some of the Al Qaeda techniques as they go after the enemy...

story.news.yahoo.com

Sometimes you have to try to send a message and you don't always want to end up in a court room....;-)



To: LindyBill who wrote (55731)11/4/2002 5:25:14 PM
From: epsteinbd  Respond to of 281500
 
On this one we do know, Lindy. There were enough Israeli soldiers that said they did use human shields, not always suspects of Hamas btw.

They also claim that it did save many lives, including those of Pals locked in, that otherwise, would have rather died fighting.

So the real question is : had you had an Israeli son there, and had he told you of a long night operation involving the search of dozens of houses and asking you for your moral stand on that subject, what would you have said ?