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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (65833)	11/4/2002 8:47:14 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

My memory is fuzzy about why she wasn't a factor and I'm too lazy to research it. Maybe I can help. Here's how I remember it. She and I had a rather bitter fight, in which I was mostly in the wrong. (For a change. <g>) For awhile, we had a sort of armed truce. But when she saw what was happening to me, it was so much over the top that her sense of justice overcame any lingering sense of resentment she might have had. I, in the meantime, had recognized that I had wronged her, and was gaining a grudging respect for her intelligence and integrity in posting. So we had our spat, and it was bitter while it lasted, but it turned into--well, not really a friendship, she emphasizes that she's not my friend, and I believe her implicitly. Nor is she my ally, any more than you are. What is that term they use for people who are forced by an outside thread into a relationship of mutual defence they would never have achieved on their own? I know there's a term, but I'm having an extended senior moment. Sort of the opposite of Poet and moi. Shows what might have happened, though, if Poet had been a bit more balanced in her response to our spat.

To: Lane3 who wrote (65833)	11/4/2002 8:48:37 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Anyone who uses "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" logic has to be wiling to take the consequences. The consequences in this case included a person she used to claim she despised. I would analyze this differently: She ended up where she is because she had no place else to go. That long, bad history got in the way. Her choice was either make common cause on the other side of this issue or be entirely on her own. Had there been conscious planning and scheming, maybe there could have been an agreement by JLA and E and Jewel and others and I to pretend to be her friend. But there was no such conscious planning and scheming. Maybe you can we fell into a trap. And maybe you can say there was a large hole in road we had to go down.

To: Lane3 who wrote (65833)	11/4/2002 8:50:38 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I understand that things were only loosely coordinated. Are you sure about that? Remember how tightly coordinated the original assault on me was, with PMs flying. Remember how you and Neo both complained about the heavy arm-twisting that was going on. There's no reason to believe that this latest attack wasn't just as well coordinated. But in this case, of course, you wouldn't have direct knowledge because you wouldn't be in the PM loop. You might be right that it was only loosely coordinated. But unless you get to see all the PMs flying at the time, which you won't, you can't be sure. And once a group of people learn to act in a certain way, they tend to return to that way. Just one of those traits of human nature.