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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (55774)11/5/2002 2:49:09 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Now those Idiots doing the Airport screening are going to open your checked baggage with you not there? Break your locks if they have to? Make the Bag miss the flight because of the check? Refuse to pay for stolen items when the bag is checked? I am glad I am not flying anywhere. From the NYT

November 5, 2002
Tough Issues on Baggage Screening Remain
By MATTHEW L. WALD

WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 ? Airport security screeners are about to begin opening hundreds of thousands of pieces of checked baggage every day, but key questions about security and liability have not been resolved, government officials and airline and airport executives say.

The Transportation Security Administration, created by Congress a year ago, is supposed to screen all checked baggage for bombs beginning Jan. 1, but the two main ways it will do the job require that many bags be opened. Among the unresolved issues is how screeners would open locked bags, who would be responsible if a traveler claimed that something inside was stolen or damaged, and who would have to get the bag to its owner if the security search caused the bag to miss the flight.

"It's a fairly big problem," said Randall H. Walker, director of aviation at McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas.

At the moment, Mr. Walker said, his first concern is "chaos in my terminal" because screeners will not be able to process bags fast enough. The percentage of bags screened is supposed to rise to 100 by Jan. 1.

The airlines, which sometimes spend more than $100 to deliver a suitcase to the owner if the bag misses the original flight, are particularly concerned with who would pay if the missed flight was the fault of security and not the airline. But another issue is the new procedure for searching bags, largely out of the owner's presence.

The issue is so sensitive that there is even debate over who will tell the public. The airlines believe that the solution is for passengers not to lock their bags, but they want the government to announce that to the public. The airlines also want the government to tell travelers that it is the government, and not the airlines, that will be conducting the searches.

The airlines and airports are hoping that Congress will extend the Dec. 31 deadline in at least some places. But the liability and logistical issues will exist in at least some places even if the Transportation Security Administration gets extensions at some airports. Most of the problems from liability to logistics require decisions from the security agency, but airline and airport executives concede that their are no easy solutions.

Before the 2001 terrorist attacks, very few bags were opened, and the Federal Aviation Administration, which was then in charge of security, required that the owner be summoned to open the bag, to reduce the risk of a security guard being hurt by a booby trap. But under the system now evolving, many bags will be opened out of view of the passenger, in back rooms where luggage is sorted for loading on airplanes.

In fact, the preferred solution at most airports is to put the screeners and their equipment in the back rooms, where the conveyor belts carry the bags on their way to the planes.

"Those bag rooms aren't big enough for the bags, let alone all the people they'd put down there," said Todd Hauptli, a spokesman for the American Association of Airport Executives. "And there's a whole lot of bags that need to be opened up."

The performance of the screening machines is a loosely guarded secret. The machines that scan whole bags at a time are said to reject 25 to 30 percent of them; those machines measure the density of objects inside, and sometimes cannot distinguish between explosives and chocolate.

Most of the bags rejected by these machines must then be opened.

The other main system is called trace detection, in which a technician rubs a gauze pad over objects to be tested, and then feeds the pad to a machine that analyzes it for explosive traces. These are becoming familiar to travelers at the passenger checkpoints.

For checked baggage, the Transportation Security Administration plans to rub the outside of 40 percent of the bags, rub the pad briefly over the inside in 40 percent of the bags, and rub down objects inside the bag in the last 20 percent; that means opening 60 percent of the bags.

To get started, the government plans to have 1,100 of the bulk detectors, which can cost more than $1 million each, and 5,000 of the trace detectors. In general, the big machines will go to the big airports and the trace systems to the smaller ones, although many airports will have both. Passengers check about 1 billion bags a year. .

With bags being searched outside their owners' sight, one question is whether a claim of theft or breakage would go to the airline or the Transportation Security Administration. Pilferage is already a problem and could get larger if passengers are told not to lock their bags.

The liability question creates "fairly uncertain terrain," said Kenneth P. Quinn, an aviation lawyer and former chief counsel of the Federal Aviation Administration. "In the past, the liability has not stuck to the government; it's been an airline responsibility," he said. "One would assume that with the federalization of security, the airlines will be able to say, `Go talk to the federal troops that opened your bag.' "

At the Transportation Security Administration, Brian Doyle, a spokesman, said that "the issues are in process," and that no decisions had been announced. Airline and airport officials say, however, that the agency has been in such a rush to procure and install equipment and hire and train screeners that the questions have been barely addressed.

"I don't think anyone has really focused on what the true implications are," said Robert W. Poole Jr., a transportation expert at the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think-tank in Los Angeles.

Not all the bags will be searched in back rooms. In places where the government has had to install screening machines in the lobbies, bags will be searched there, perhaps in plain sight of everyone waiting to check bags, according to experts. This, too, could create security problems, experts say.

"It's almost as effective to get something exploding in an airport as in an airliner," said Seth Young, an airport expert at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Dr. Young was speaking on Friday at a conference here on aviation security at the Aviation Institute of George Washington University.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (55774)11/5/2002 6:09:24 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Economist on expansion of Jewish colonies in Palestinian territory

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economist.com

There are now 123 Jewish settlements in the West Bank, and 12 in occupied East Jerusalem, housing some 380,000 settlers who share the territory with 2.4m Palestinians. They do not share it equally.

According to a recent study by B'Tselem, an Israeli human-rights group, the West Bank settler population doubled in size during the seven-year Oslo peace process, and the settlements' territorial reach has now been extended to cover nearly 42% of the West Bank. This huge expansion has been achieved largely through the construction of settler-only bypass roads and military zones which serve to integrate the settlements with Israel proper.

The Palestinians ask for a full freeze on settlement construction as a first step to their evacuation or dismantlement. They presented this demand to William Burns, the State Department's special envoy, when he was in Jericho last week. Mr Burns is touring the region with the draft of a “roadmap” to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict within three years. Among a slew of other demands, the roadmap calls for dismantling the outposts by December, and a freeze “on all settlement activity” by next May. But Palestinians believe that only a handful of the outposts will be removed, and Mr Sharon has consistently ruled out a freeze.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (55774)11/5/2002 6:12:45 AM
From: epsteinbd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
No air or good enough satellite photographs available to my knowledge. A not too bad a map in fmep.org/report/2002.

I have seen them settlements from the air. Around Jerusalem, the concentration is impressive, especially at night, suggesting that the Pals will not be able to win any demographic war within the next generations, since they don't really outrun the orthodox Jews on the womb utilization ratio.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (55774)11/6/2002 7:29:09 PM
From: jcky  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Do you have a link to the photographs?

Do you honestly believe the American government is going to post classified reconnaissance satellite photographs of Israeli settlements on the internet? You don't suspect a few psycho terrorists would find the logistical information more than a little useful in targeting the Israeli colonies in the West Bank?

I really do not know what kind of game you are trying to play but one common theme is beginning to emerge. Some of us here on the thread are trying to understand the set of circumstances leading to the current conflict in the Mideast because we are hopeful for a peaceful solution. You can even say that the blame game being played on this thread and in official statecraft is rather silly, counterproductive, and irrelevant because it will never produce the conducive atmosphere needed for constructive dialogue between the responsible parties involved.

I like to identify problems. Terrorism against Israeli civilians is one problem. Expanding Israeli colonies is another. And do you know what is the most disturbing aspect about this whole Mideast conflict? There is no longer a degree of moral separation between the Arabs and the Jews in that region. Both societies have decayed into an abomination.

So yes, American satellite photographs have confirmed the expansion of Israeli colonies. But is this really a big shock for you, Nadine, considering you already knew the answer before the question?

fmep.org

Based on satellite photographs, [the United States] has asked Israel for explanations about new construction in the settlements. The United States has used satellites for this purpose in the past, usually keeping the information to themselves. Satellite images show every new building, but they can't show, for example, whether the buildings are inhabited or are used for civilian or military purposes. Questions submitted by the Americans to the defense minister's office focus on new construction not only in the settlements themselves but also in areas close to them, "outposts," as they are known.

The tendency is to continue with everything just as it was--to force the Palestinians to stop the violence and to carry on building the settlements as though nothing has happened. Many in Israel understand by now that this is a no-win formula and that it will be accompanied by constant bloodshed. Whether the sides will continue or stop their old deceptions depends in no small measure on the Americans.

Ze'ev Schiff, Ha'aretz,November 16, 2001