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To: zonder who wrote (17556)	11/5/2002 1:38:18 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 23908

zonder you said...." Heh. The only reason I am still responding to you is because this is too entertaining to give up :) "MUSLIM TERRORISTS!" Are you happy now? :)))"..... Good for you zonder That's the first step...now if you can only get away from appearing to make excuses for MUSLIM TERRORISTS you may be on your way to full recovery. You said...." Heh. The only reason I am still responding to you is because this is too entertaining to give up :)".... Na. That's not why zonder you just don't want to go away a LOSER! :-) you said....." >You obviously know next to nothing on a culture you hate And..... "Hmm, so you don't? I mean, from your questions about whether there are no statues or pictures in a mosque, I gathered that you don't know much about Islam. Despite your lack of knowledge, you are surprisingly opinionated about this religion and its followers, calling the Ka'ba a "meteorite" and people who turn around it "silly". If "hate" is too strong a word, let us say "dislike", and anyone reading your posts would not argue with that, I suppose. "..... Come on zonder, not good enough, you said I hated islam I challenge you to show me where I have ever said this or indicated this if you can not then you are a liar. Correct? So zonder I don't hate. or even dislike I fear what islam is and what it can and has done to many countries.

To: zonder who wrote (17556)	11/5/2002 7:42:24 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Of course, the great majority of Muslims are peaceful – so what? November 5, 2002 Whenever the question of Islam and violence – specifically terror – is raised, we are repeatedly told that "the vast majority of Muslims in the world are peaceful people" who never engage in terror. This is entirely accurate. And entirely irrelevant. The vast majority of Germans living in the Nazi era were also peaceful – very few ever so much as laid a hand on a Jew. So, too, the vast majority of Russians never killed anyone while 20 to 40 million of their fellow citizens were murdered by the communist regime under Stalin. The point here is that the threat to civilization emanating from within Islam is no more obviated by the fact that the great majority of Muslims are not violent than the threat that emanated from Nazism was obviated by the peaceful behavior of the great majority of Germans, or the threat from Soviet Communism was nullified by the nonviolence among the great majority of Russians. Germany was a threat to civilization because Nazis and their ideology took over German society while the majority of Germans (the "good Germans") either supported Nazi ideals or did nothing. Russia was a threat to civilization because communists took over the country, and the great majority of Russians either supported Papa Stalin or did nothing. Some Islamic societies are today becoming a threat to civilization because Islamic totalitarians and terrorists are taking over those societies while a majority of Muslims either support their ideals or do nothing. That is why it is meaningless at best, and dishonest at worst, to deny the threat to civilization coming from various Muslim countries by noting that most Muslims are not violent. Only a handful of Saudis terrorized America on 9-11-01, but a large majority of Saudis support Osama bin Laden. Few Palestinians strap bombs onto their children's bodies, but the majority of them support such evil and none of the others publicly morally condemn it. At this moment, the dominant strain of Islamic thought is totalitarian, meaning that wherever possible, a government should be Islamic and govern according to a strict interpretation of the Sharia (Muslim religious law). Furthermore, when necessary and when possible, the Islamists believe these religious laws should be imposed violently – as in Sudan, Nigeria, Afghanistan and elsewhere. In addition, the dominant ideological trend in much of Islamic society is hate-filled. What is said daily about Jews in Middle Eastern mosques rivals what the Nazis said about Jews. And not only in mosques. During Ramadan, Egyptian television is running a 41-part series based on the anti-Semitic forgery "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." For all these reasons, one's moral assessment of what is taking place in the Muslim world must be made independent of the fact that the great majority of Muslims are peaceful people. Their peaceful lifestyle is not influencing the bellicose trends in their religion. Thus, what is most frightening is not that there are Muslim terrorists, but by how little criticism of Islamic terror emanates from normative Islamic groups. While some Muslim groups have condemned individual acts of Islamic terror such as 9-11, not one significant Muslim group in the world, including here in free America, has condemned Islamic terror generally. And the leaders of Al-Azhar University, the most prestigious institution of Islamic learning, have actually morally and religiously come out in support of Islamic suicide terror against Israelis. So the fact that the majority of those living in the Islamic countries are good people is of no consequence. Unless they do something to condemn and to isolate the Muslim totalitarians and terrorists in their midst, history will judge them as it has all the good Germans during the Holocaust. Dennis Prager, one of America's most respected and popular nationally syndicated radio talk-show hosts, is the author of several books and a frequent guest on television shows such as Larry King Live, Politically Incorrect, The Late Late Show on CBS, Rivera Live, The Early Show on CBS, Fox Family Network, The O'Reilly Factor and Hannity & Colmes. worldnetdaily.com