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To: jttmab who wrote (16665)11/5/2002 5:50:14 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93284
 
There was a state involved here:
Message 18198731

By the way, when was the Declaration of War against North Korea? Or North Vietnam?



To: jttmab who wrote (16665)11/5/2002 11:31:50 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Morocco was an independent country ruled by the same dynasty that rules there today. Algiers, Tripoli, and Tunis were ruled by sovereigns titled beys, deys, or pashas, who were officially ruled by the sultan of the Ottoman empire, but were actually quasi-independent. "To finance their governments they would routinely declare war on a European state and set either naval vessels or privateers to seize enemy shipping." (The Savage Wars of Peace, Max Boot) The cargo and ships weren't the only prize. The sailors taken captive were sold into slavery.



To: jttmab who wrote (16665)11/5/2002 11:38:14 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
"When Jefferson convened his cabinet to discuss the Barbary situation in May 1801, Attorney Levi Lincoln objected that only Congress could declare war - and it wasn't in session. Jefferson declined to call Congress into special session, feeling no need to obtain a declaration of war even though he was about to dispatch the U.S. armed forces on a mission that carried a high likelihood of battle." (The Savage Wars of Peace, Max Boot)



To: jttmab who wrote (16665)11/6/2002 8:21:00 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
I am discussing constitutionality, not morality.