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To: Berry Picker who wrote (33897)	11/6/2002 10:46:12 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Elect, This one is for you, heart to heart. 4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned. 5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither turned away back. 6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting. 7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed. 8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me. 9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up. 10 Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God. 11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.Isaiah 50 James

To: Berry Picker who wrote (33897)	11/7/2002 11:57:51 AM
From: Greg or e	Respond to of 39621

Brian I think this is getting closer to the heart of the matter I do not know a single Preterist anywhere who has ever denied that Jesus rose from the dead with a “body”. "A" body? No, the same body that went into the tomb is the same body that was raised up. John 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. Raising Christ in a spiritual body that had no relationship with the actual body that went into the tomb could hardly be seen as a sign. Could it? You asked; "what kind of body walks right through walls? John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them. Jesus cometh, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. This verse does not say that Jesus walked through anything. It may be a possible inference but it is in no way the only explanation. Nobody claims that when Angels appear they walk through walls, they simply appear in the physical dimension. When Christ did appear as you pointed out it was in His,(not "A") physical body. The body that still had the marks from the nails and the spear. Even doubting Thomas recognized this. "the greatest stumbling point as I see it are the words “in like manner” contained in the verses in Acts:" I'd like to address the weakness in your argument here but I must go to work for awhile so I'll leave that for the next post. Greg