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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17590)	11/7/2002 7:44:19 AM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 23908

Well, I don't think that "defending our freedom" is a military business only." No one stated it was. It was a signature to say thanks for serving to our troops.. What is the problem.?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17590)	11/7/2002 8:08:52 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

There're many different freedoms --the freedom to drive a SUV at 50c/gallon, the freedom to deny the Palestinians their own freedom, the freedom to lie about the real masterminds behind 911, anthrax, the '98 bombing of US embassies, We can all see you exercising most of these freedoms regularly - if we bother to click on your posts. But where are you getting the 50 cent fuel? Maybe lying about that is another freedom.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17590)	11/7/2002 10:39:05 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

The warrior is dead, but his ‘spirit’ sustains others 16.47 IST 07th Nov 2002 By IndiaExpress Bureau Believe it or not, an Indian Army rifleman has been promoted as 'major general' forty years after his death! Many believe that he continues to command troops doing duty at the dizzy heights of the country’s frontiers with China. Rifleman Jaswant Singh Rawat of the Fourth Garhwal Rifles infantry regiment is the only soldier in the history of the Indian Army to have risen through the ranks after his death! Rawat refused to leave his post located at an altitude of about 10,000 feet. The valiant soldier held off Chinese troops for three days single-handedly before being felled by an enemy bullet in the war with China in 1962. It’s true the rifleman is no more, but his valorous deed continues to be remembered. The soldier got a promotion at regular intervals, and today he is a major general. The post that he refused to vacate has been renamed Jaswant Garh in recognition of his courage. His heroics have ensured for him a distinct place among all ranks of the Army manning the unfenced 1,030 km Sino-Indian border. Many regard him as a guardian angel protecting the frontiers. The battle site has been converted into a Hindu temple, and Rawat accorded the status of a saint. "Army personnel passing by this route, be it a general or an ordinary soldier, make it a point to pay their respects at the shrine of Jaswant Singh or else they invoke his curse," said soldier Ram Narayan Singh. "A major general once refused to pray at his shrine while crossing the area, saying this was just a superstition, but he met with a mysterious road accident a few kilometers away from here and died," he added. The Garhwal Rifles are today deployed on India's western borders, but the unit makes it a point to keep at least half-a-dozen personnel here to take care of Rawat as if he were alive. "For us he is immortal and continues to protect and bless us in this treacherous mountain terrain," said a Garhwal Rifles soldier posted at Rawat's shrine. An orderly cooks for him daily, makes his bed, irons his clothes and polishes his boots, while guards patrol his shrine around the clock. "Each morning his bed is found crumpled and his freshly ironed clothes lie crushed on the floor," another soldier said. "He is here all the time although we cannot see him." "The respect that Rawat commands even after his death is something very rare in the Indian Army," Major Jaideep Ghosh said. "I have never seen anything like this before anywhere of a martyred soldier still influencing the lives of the troops." Reports have it that after killing him the Chinese troops beheaded Rawat carried his torso as a trophy. After the ceasefire, the Chinese commander, impressed by Rawat's bravery, returned the head along with a brass bust of the gallant soldier. The bust now adorns the battle site. "A nation that does not honor its dead warriors will perish," an Army commander remarked as soldiers lit earthen lamps at nightfall to keep Rawat's memories alive. indiaexpress.com

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (17590)	11/10/2002 12:30:08 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Europeans Outlaw Net Hate Speech 02:00 AM Nov. 09, 2002 PT The Council of Europe has adopted a measure that would criminalize Internet hate speech, including hyperlinks to pages that contain offensive content. The provision, which was passed by the council's decision-making body (the Committee of Ministers), updates the European Convention on Cybercrime. Specifically, the amendment bans "any written material, any image or any other representation of ideas or theories, which advocates, promotes or incites hatred, discrimination or violence, against any individual or group of individuals, based on race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin, as well as religion if used as pretext for any of these factors." It also obliquely refers to the Holocaust, outlawing sites that deny, minimize, approve or justify crimes against humanity, particularly those that occurred during World War II. "The emergence of international communication networks like the Internet provide certain persons with modern and powerful means to support racism and xenophobia and enables them to disseminate easily and widely expressions containing such ideas," the council's report on the amendment states. "In order to investigate and prosecute such persons, international cooperation is vital." Many European countries have existing laws outlawing Internet racism, which is generally protected as free speech in the United States. The council cited a report finding that 2,500 out of 4,000 racist sites were created in the United States. Critics say that the measure may push hate groups to set up virtual shop in the United States, pointing to a decision last year by a U.S. judge who ruled that Yahoo did not have to block French citizens' access to online sales of Nazi memorabilia, which are illegal in that country. The judge determined that U.S. websites are only subject to American law. "This could lead to a clash of cultures," said Cedric Laurant, a Belgian lawyer and staff counsel with the Electronic Privacy and Information Center. "What will happen if the French police start asking local U.S. police to give them information about the people running a site?" European countries may decide to censor U.S. content themselves, as Spain has done, suggested Carlos Sánchez Almeida, a cybercrime lawyer located in Barcelona. Spain recently passed legislation authorizing judges to shut down Spanish sites and block access to U.S. Web pages that don't comply with national laws. "If European countries adopt the (anti-racism) amendment of the European Council in their legislatures, they'll also be able to block websites from the U.S.A., despite the First Amendment." Representatives of the 44 European countries on the European Council must decide whether to adopt or reject the measure during the next Parliamentary Assembly session in January. Countries who support the amendment will then need to ratify it in their national legislatures before making it law. wired.com