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To: Steve Lee who wrote (14203)11/7/2002 8:26:15 PM
From: ajtj99  Respond to of 30712
 
Steve, the pensions are in the union contract, so they can't mess with them. White collar people are in 401K's, so they don't have the pensions.

The one change F might make is their pension fund assumptions for accounting purposes. That might be the reason for the 90-minute long explanation, as it would impact their balance sheet for the next couple of years at a minimum.

They also might announce a special charge for this in order to avoid Regulation FD stuff and big earnings surprises. GM and Ford did the pension fund adjustments about 15-years ago, if memory serves, and their underfunded pension obligations resulted in the largest quarterly loss in US history at the time. The law had just changed to keep people from losing all their pensions in the event of a company bankruptcy.



To: Steve Lee who wrote (14203)11/7/2002 10:29:54 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw  Respond to of 30712
 
i'd think that would cause some pretty serious problems with their unions. cutting pension bennies is a HUGE deal to the likes of UAW.

not saying it isn't going to happen, just that such an annoucement would be the most desperate bit of news since, well, since greenie cut 1/2 a point..