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Gold/Mining/Energy : Canadian REITS, Trusts & Dividend Stocks -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (4816)	11/13/2002 2:49:32 AM
From: upanddown	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 11633

Canadian REITS and Trusts? Wow, this is great! I'm really interested in Canadian REITS and Trusts. I'll stop in here and discuss Canadian REITS and Trusts with the other people here. Oh, there doesn't seem to be anything about Canadian REITS and Trusts here. Just some hyper-sensitive guy insisting at great length that he is never wrong and everyone else jerking his chain. Yawnnnnnnn. I'll check back in a couple of weeks. Who knows, there may be something about Canadian REITS and Trusts.

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (4816)	11/13/2002 4:49:30 PM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn	Respond to of 11633

It's not your system that I'm criticizing. I don't know how many times I've told you that now. Its the misplaced altruism. I have no doubt you do very well. Your method is sound obviously if it makes you money. ------ That altruism isnt misplaced. As you yourself acknowledge I deliver a "METHOD". All I ask and insist on is that others who make the great claims to also deliver. No more no less. As I stated previously. How far the discussion could go how much could joe and others learn if the mostly trader side delivered mounds and mounds of real math fact and data and methodology. That all here could go over. Could check and test. And ultimately benefit from ------ And that is why I'm trying a similar strategy myself ................. ------ But are you really trying a similar strat yourself. Have you stuck to a limited numbers of trusts have you done the math in terms of their cycling ranges (high range --- sell or just hold and collect high income, low range --- accumulate on the way down by staggerring your purchases). Have you followed its guides. Or is it as I suspect. That your doing it lip service. Your not taking advantage of the cycling lows to their full extent. You most probably havent even done the math and set up any ranges at all to guide you. If thats the case then most probably it will be doomed to failure. Saying your following it and actually following it (like it states) may well be two different things and most probably is ----------------- BUT (yeah here it comes) if you trade and make a good decision then that must be balanced by someone else making a wrong decision. It's that simple. That's all I'm saying. ----- But your implication was much more ----------- If everyone followed your method vis a vis trading then no one could make money. ----- The truth is that everyone wont. There are enough Lornes (people who claim to invest magically with no method and always come out ahead or those that have a method but have no time to show anyone how it works or even if it works by real data that can be tested and verified) out there that insist their getting superior returns even when they demonstrate by past post they havent------- I'm not talking about trust income here that can be in it's purest form all unitholders simply sharing in the profits of a business. I'm just talking about trading stocks like NT or warrants . Vehicles / transactions where your profit comes from a trade and subsequent cap gain. You buy low...I buy high from you. You can go on and on but unless a stock goes up forever someone is a bagholder eventually. How can EVERYONE MAKE MONEY TRADING ANY method including yours. You need people to make wrong decisions to balance your right decisions. If EVERYONE followed your method on a particular stock and ALWAYS made the right decision then where does all the money come from ? Gee wouldn't that be wonderful if everyone that ever owned NT made a profit ? I'd really like you to demonstrate that. ----- What I demonstrate is that I deliver the info for others to make a correct decision based on fact and data and evidence. Once thats delivered the choice in the matter is of that person on the receiving end. If he chooses to ignore it. Guides himself by magic. And makes a mistake. Buying something when he should not. THATS HIS PROBLEM NOT MINE. I did my part by providing the info the method before hand ---- Forget the rest I agree with it already, Yes on the trusts I THINK YOU ARE THE MOST CORRECT. As far as sullying well I get the feeling you meant (and again I may be wrong here) I'm not a sharer that I don't believe in sharing ? I think that's the inference.... ------ What you show here is the sharing of info and news. All very important. But thats only half of what joe needs. Joe needs what the info or news really means (you deliver some of that not all). Joe needs a means to apply that (you dont provide that) Joe needs a strat using something tangible he can check (MATH) you dont provide that. Now how about some of that????? Joe doesnt want to invest by magic. In my attacks of Lorne (others) I tried to get him (them) to show how he (they) did what he (they) claimed -- superior returns. Others asked quite directly and he (they) was vague or unresponsive. In particular Bill asked LOrne to show him how dividend stripping would have worked with GLH.UN -- NO RESPONSE. Graham came out to claim great success as well with it but when asked he was much too busy to offer anything. I guess its too much to ask someone who makes the claim to not just come here and say how good they are but to show all others how its done. That would be too much wouldnt it???? ------------