To: c.hinton who wrote (21766 ) 11/13/2002 2:35:43 AM From: grusum Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36161 C: You are talking like a spoiled child. G: And you are THINKING like one. ------------------------------ C: Real men do what is necessary, with out making weak excuses. G: Oh, i see. You're speaking from the "real man's" point of view. What a crock. --------------------------------------------- C: We need their oil, why make up lame reasons like "they started it",and theirs is a bad culture to justify our actions. G: Why don't you take up remedial reading 101? I'm not trying to justify war by saying that "theirs is a bad culture". It is more simple and fundamental than that. They hate us and want to kill us because of what we are and they are not, (as Darren explained so well in his post). Their culture has nothing to with it, (except that their culture will not allow them to change). They hate us and are trying to kill us and ruin us economically. I would be willing to fight them even if they had the SAME culture as ours. ------------------------------------------ C: Are you also saying that the was no problem until 9/11? G: Hardly. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. -------------------------------------- C: I am not against war for oil, G: You're not?? Why not? I'm not for 'war for oil'. I'd much rather pay a fair price for it. I wish that none of this shit was necessary. We WILL take Iraq's oil fields, but contrary to what YOU think, that's not the reason we're going to fight Iraq. ----------------------------------------- C: but I am against wrapping it up in self rightous clap trap like you are doing. G: Fine! Be against whatever you like! Your idealistic sniveling doesn't change anything. They've proven what they're willing to do, and now we have to do what we have to do, to defend ourselves.