To: JohnG who wrote (125502 ) 11/15/2002 1:42:05 PM From: pyslent Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472 Java vs. BREW As it pertains to the treo, brew is redundant. Remember the device IS a palm... if you don't like the browser, just download a new one. There are more than 40,000 palm applications to date. www.palmgear.com "These guys are Idiots not to take advantage of BREW's many advantages." I would be interested in what you thought those advantages were. Publically, Sprint has always viewed BREW as a nonevent, and i tend to agree. THere is no shortage of third party java applications, either officially endorsed by sprint or not. As an end-user, i'm very happy that sprint had decided to forego brew for java. I have been able to find and download a number of java midlets that I've found useful; most of these were NOT officially offered by Sprint and were downloaded from third party sites. The limited number of applications officially available through brew on VZ is similarly disappointing, but unlike sprint customers, vz customers are NOT given the choice to go outside of the VZ BREW store to find applications they want. It is possible that te java versions of the applications I'm using are running slower than their BREW counterparts, but who knows, since VZ has not deigned to offer them. In my view, BREW has no benefit to consumers. It puts them under the control of the carrier as far as what applications they can choose from. For the carrier, of course, there s few obvious benefits. There is less risk of a rogue application screwing up a phone or the network itself. ALso, sprint's decision to adopt the more open java environment may freeze them out of a cut in the software market, if a large number of users go outside the official sprint store and download from third party sites. THe bottom line is, end users definitely benefit from the addiotional choices.