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To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (19897)11/17/2002 10:24:45 PM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 27732
 
I thought it was understood that their request was accompanied by "or else you die...."

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By the way, the article below tells that $70 million was used to bribe Afghan/Taliban warloads. Apparently what the warloads didn't realize was that the money just came out of the printing press. And this was at our expense ---the printed cash is "inflationary" over time and erodes the worth of our dollars no matter what currency it is in.
In effect we were all paying to bribe the Afghan/Taliban
warlords!!!

WAR AGAINST THE TALEBAN

CIA 'paid $70m to win over Afghan warlords'
WASHINGTON - The CIA gave tens of millions of dollars to Afghan warlords to gain crucial support for President George W. Bush's campaign to bring down the Taleban regime last year, according to a new book.

The book, Bush at War, also highlights grave doubts within his administration about the early course of the war against the Taleban regime and tensions over Afghanistan and Iraq.

Sections of the book by Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward - which includes lengthy interviews with the US President - were reported by the newspaper on Saturday.

The book says there were major doubts during the early stages of the war when US jets were bombing militia targets while the opposition Northern Alliance led the ground assault.

At one stage, the US Defence Department drew up plans to send 50,000 troops into Afghanistan.

'At a climactic meeting in the Situation Room two weeks into the campaign, Mr Bush went around the table demanding that his aides affirm their support for the strategy,' the book says.

''Don't let the press panic us', he was quoted as saying, and each aide pledged allegiance without answering his calls for an alternative strategy.'

The book says the Central Intelligence Agency spent US$70 million in direct cash outlays in Afghanistan, which also included some money to set up field hospitals.

'That's one bargain,' Mr Bush told the journalist in an interview last August.

About half a dozen CIA teams handed out the cash in US$100 bills to Afghan warlords.

The first team arrived in Afghanistan on Sept 27 with the team leader carrying US$3 million in cash in an attache case.

Bush At War draws on four hours of interviews with the President.

It also cites meetings of the National Security Council and other White House gatherings on the US military action in Afghanistan and the decision to confront Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

Mr Woodward became known for his role in the Watergate investigation. --AFP



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (19897)11/17/2002 11:04:29 PM
From: Investor Clouseau  Respond to of 27732
 
They can ask all they want that is not the issue. They are threatening us with death if we do not convert.

IMO, God will cause them to fail, just as He caused Christians to fail when they tried the same thing.

IC



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (19897)11/18/2002 8:39:19 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 27732
 
A message from moderate islam???
A Special Message to the Muslim Nation
by Sheikh Ahmed Yasin
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds, and peace and blessings be upon Muhammad, the Leader of all Messengers; peace be upon his kith and kin, his Companions, and those who adhere to his teachings till the day of Judgment.

Dear brothers in Islam all over the world, I forward this message to you from the place where the trees shed tears over the lost birds, where the ponds have turned blood, where the wives have become widows, the children have turned orphans, the dwelling places have become prisons.

This is a Palestinian voice, from the land that witnessed the Night Journey (Ascension to the Heavens) of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him; it’s a voice echoing from the vicinity of Jerusalem and the Aqsa Mosque, the first Prayer Direction (Qiblah) for Muslims, and directed to the Muslim nation to wake up. I ask you, all Muslims, to act like one man, to do something to stop this massacre of Muslims, in Palestine, Afghanistan, and all over the world.

All Muslims must stand together to repair the dilapidated structure of Muslims unity, to come to the rescue of the suppressed, to resist the aggression waged by America and international community against Muslims. We shouldn’t give in to the pitiful fait accompli! Rather, we should give hear to that hardly audible voice of faith calling us to revive our strength, will and courage, to sacrifice ourselves for our nation. We have to listen and yield to that voice calling us to discard weakness and passivity, inviting us to martyrdom, a key to real life, eternal success and happiness; all this can’t be achieved through pursuit of worldly gains!

We do not have but one choice: to live or to die. This is the only option to save our nation from oppression, to save our children, women and old people. When innocent American people were killed during the events of 11 September, the whole world rose up to attack the Muslim nation, launching attacks against Afghanistan and all Islamic movements that fight in the cause of Islam. They do so for the sake of Israel. But for our innocent people killed here and there, no one care a fig, as if they carried in them souls different to those of the victims of Sept 11th incident.

Dear brothers in Islam, we have no alternative but showing resistance and fighting in Allah’s cause; we have no alternative but Jihad and martyrdom; we have no alternative but to sacrifice ourselves for the sake of Islam, for the sake of our nation, that should be ruled by Islamic teachings, and for the sake of freedom and dignity. We should be guided by the following verse, {How many of the prophets fought (in Allah's way), and with them (fought) Large bands of godly men? but they never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah's way, nor did they weaken (in will) nor give in. And Allah Loves those who are firm and steadfast. All that they said was: "Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and anything We may have done that transgressed our duty: Establish our feet firmly, and help us against those that resist Faith. And Allah gave them a reward in this world, and the excellent reward of the Hereafter. For Allah Loveth those who do good}. (Al `Imran: 145-146)

So, a great reward lies in fighting steadfastly in Allah’s cause. Fearing death shouldn’t fill our hearts to the extent of neglecting the duty of Jihad; we should bear in mind that sooner or later we will all die; life is for us a temporary stay or something like a short transit to heaven. Almighty Allah says, {Wheresoever ye may be, death will overtake you, even though ye were in lofty towers}. (An-Nisa`: 78)

O Muslims, wake up; return to the right path of your religion, return to the Book of Allah, Exalted and Glorified be He, and the traditions of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. You religion is the real source of power, for it is the last Message from Allah to save mankind. But, alas, we do not make use of this Message.

Only what we do is criticizing others, while we ourselves live in a mess, disintegration, and dissolution. We should first check ourselves first before casting aspersions on others

Dear sisters and brothers, dear Muslims everywhere, Jihad is an individual duty on you; that is the only way for to put into practice Allah’s teachings and to let the banner of Islam flutter high in the breeze. That is the only way to free our countries and ourselves from the oppressive people who occupy our lands. It is a battle of life and death, a battle of victory or martyrdom.

This is the path that we should tread; this is the path of dignity and honor; this is the path of decent life. We should go through this path, so that we can rebuild the Muslim nation. He who thinks that there is any other path for achieving this is living in illusion. It suffices to delve into the luminous pages of the history; to read the biography of Allah’s Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, and that of his Companions, to know how wide apart we are from those golden era of Islam. The countries you live in now, had it not been for the Companions and their Successors who sacrificed themselves for the sake of Islam, there wouldn’t have been any trace of Islam therein.

Those who think that the glory of the Muslim nation can be restored without Jihad are laboring under illusion and pursuing mirage that will drive them to ruin. Jihad is the sword that defends right; right without sword cannot be attained, and sword without right is blind to truth, and it’s bond to be despotic.
islamonline.net