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To: RON BL who wrote (321254)11/18/2002 10:52:12 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 769670
 
Fanatic fundamentalist settlers provoke fear even among Israeli Jews:

Settlers defying Israeli law Actions spark fear in the region,
Boston Globe, October 23, 2002
"Jewish settlers in the occupied Palestinian territories have suddenly broken into open defiance of the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on multiple fronts, threatening the stability of the ruling coalition and creating an environment that some Israelis compare to that which led to the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Across the rocky, rolling hills of the northern West Bank, which the settlers call by the biblical name Samaria, settlers are attacking Palestinians attempting to harvest their olives - a major ritual of Palestinian society and an important source of income for the impoverished rural population. Olive harvesters have been beaten, shot at, wounded, and, in one case, killed... In the past week alone, a Palestinian was found crawling through the groves near an Itamar outpost after allegedly being beaten severely by residents, Palestinian villagers fled their homes after a settler rampage, and numerous olive harvesters were threatened. The injured man had three broken fingers, and was burned and bruised all over his body, according to the doctor in Nablus who treated him. A relative who took him to the hospital said the man told him settlers hung him upside down in a tree, with his hands tied behind his back, while beating him. In other Samarian settlements, Israeli police said, armed, masked settlers torched seven cars owned by Palestinians after the Palestinians refused to leave their olive groves."



To: RON BL who wrote (321254)11/20/2002 10:29:32 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
Is one of the reasons people come to America the understanding that here their religion is not a tool of the government.

There is no reason when someone states Islam is evil or is a religion of evil. That's simple Defamation. In every post I focused on that issue. And the reality of what you quoted was in place during every post. I believe I said it in other different ways.

I was speaking with reason in every post. Reread what I said. Was it at all inconsistent with that which you quoted. Just as I spoke directly it seems many misread what I was saying. Well speaking directly and saying in effect Islam is evil with lists of only the bad with no balance is easily misread. Asking to be shown good is revealing an ignorance of ones soul and heart.

Folks have done evil in the name of every religion. Backward ignorant folks do that. Do I consider Arab culture to be backward and ignorant, Yes. So folks there will do what backward ignorant folks do in the name of their religion. They are preyed upon by those with psychotic or selfish motives. Today the cunning understand the nature of control by force and by controlling the mind by whatever tool. One has the examples and the texts of analysis of how power by force and propaganda is seized and maintained. This genie is afoot and lose in Arab cultures.

Can good talkers fool/sucker good honest people. Any Christian Evangelists come to mind. Sometimes it's money and sometimes is power and money. There are evil cults within Islam. They are used to control by governments in the Middle East. They are a corruption of Islam.

So what is new in the world. I always attempt to ask the how and why of a process.

Why, Human nature is survival of the fittest by any means.
How, Use a proven simple method.
What is a most effective means. Control the message that controls the hearts and minds and kill or destroy any who do not accept the message.

Dictator 101. The guy(s) at the top lets those with a message that assists in his control to get it out and suppresses all who speak out. That is what controls the messages coming out of the Middle East. And there is an Islamic Mafia to suppress.