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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (9594)11/19/2002 11:22:49 AM
From: westpacific  Respond to of 89467
 
Jim - the FED is buying the market- that is NO QUESTION.

I agree - what else will they do - it could outright cause a crash IMO>



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (9594)11/19/2002 11:31:16 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
How Bin Laden Gave US the Slip

The Telegraph (UK)

Sunday, 17 November, 2002

An audio tape released last week confirmed that Osama bin Laden was still alive and perhaps preparing his next attack. Christina Lamb, in Kabul, reveals the route that the world's most wanted man took to evade capture

On the dusty Shamali plain one hour north of Kabul, amid ruins of mud-baked villages that suffered the worst atrocities of the Taliban years, American soldiers with M4 rifles, machine pistols and night-vision goggles guard a razor-wired compound.

The operations headquarters of the world's biggest manhunt, Bagram airbase feels like a film set, with the dark shadows of Chinooks and Apache helicopters ferrying American and coalition troops in and out.

The real nerve centre is an unprepossessing plywood hangar containing a top-secret computer system codenamed Harmony, into which every piece of intelligence gathered about al-Qaeda is entered and cross-checked, however small or apparently insignificant.

Yet for all its impressive capability, the system has been hampered by its diet of misinformation from Afghan commanders, who have discovered that they can earn thousands of dollars from feeding "tips" to American special forces.

And over the past year, Osama bin Laden and most of his lieutenants have proved themselves more than a match for the world's most sophisticated technology and powerful army.

Last week's comment by General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that the search had "lost momentum" seemed to reflect the mood in the hangar.

Most agents privately believed that far from lying dead in a cave in Tora Bora, bin Laden had slipped through the net. On Tuesday night, a piece of intelligence came in from operatives in Pakistan that confirmed their worst suspicions.

At a meeting at 10pm in Islamabad, a tape cassette had been passed to Ahmad Muaffaq Zaidan, an al-Jazeera journalist, by a man with his face shrouded in a scarf and speaking heavily accented English.

Zaidan listened to the tape on his car stereo, recognising it as the voice of bin Laden. whom he had interviewed twice, then played it down his home telephone to his editor in Qatar where it was quickly broadcast on the satellite network.

"It is time we get even," menaced the soft, breathy voice. "You will be killed just as you kill," naming first Britain, then France, Italy, Canada, Germany and Australia.

In Washington, where it was early afternoon, some of the world's leading language specialists were summoned. Working through the night, they compared voice inflections and use of words on the four-minute message with the library of voiceprints from previous bin Laden tapes.

Within a day they were confirming that the voice was indeed that of the man behind the trail of death and destruction from New York to Bali.

The breathless tone suggested chronic illness, perhaps the kidney disease he apparently suffers, but the reference to recent events such as the Moscow theatre siege meant this was not a rehashed old tape. Osama bin Laden was alive.

The authentication sent panic through the corridors of Washington and London, not to mention Paris and Rome.

A similar warning had been issued by bin Laden a week before September 11, and this week's tape has been endlessly scrutinised to see if it contains a coded message for followers to activate a new attack.

The first tape of bin Laden since a video was released in April showing him and his deputy, Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri, which was dismissed by the US Defense Department as a pastiche of earlier clips, its timing was significant.

A meeting between sworn enemies of the West - al-Qaeda, Taliban ministers, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (a fundamentalist mujaheddin leader), and members of Pakistan's military intelligence (ISI) - was being held in the Pakistani town of Quetta and the taped message was seen as rallying the troops.

The meeting took place in the knowledge of Western intelligence services, yet they could do nothing about it. 'There's one word for why we didn't catch Osama and that's Pakistan," complained one frustrated intelligence officer.

"Put it this way, the Pakistanis are selling nuclear technology to the north Koreans after September 11 yet we're calling them our best buddies. . ."

Most CIA agents are convinced that their inability to seal off Afghanistan's long border with Pakistan because their supposed ally would not allow them to deploy troops on its soil until April, allowed bin Laden to cross over twice and ultimately escape.

They also believe that ISI helped about 3,000 al-Qaeda members escape after the fall of the Taliban's stronghold of Kandahar last December.

Around the same time that the Americans began bombing the mountain cave network of Tora Bora further east, in the belief that bin Laden was there, another 2,000 slipped across the border into the tribal areas, aided by Afghan commanders who were supposedly helping the US.

"At every occasion we came too late and left a window open," said one operative, shaking his head.

The release of last week's tape came as no surprise to those on the ground. Not only was bin Laden not killed in Tora Bora, but perhaps was never there at all.

Haji Zaman, the Afghan commander who provided the initial information of bin Laden's presence in the region, is now regarded as highly suspect and lives in exile in Peshawar.

A much-vaunted radio interception from Tora Bora on December 10 of bin Laden exhorting his troops to fight was never authenticated.

Agents now believe it may have been his son Saad or a recording. "We made a very Western assumption that bin Laden would lead from the front," said one agent.

Instead, new intelligence has emerged suggesting that the al-Qaeda leader left Afghanistan in November and retreated to his family's ancestral homeland of Yemen to lick his wounds.

His deputy, al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who once treated him for high blood pressure, was left running operations.

The new evidence came to light amid thousands of documents seized by Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, during raids in March on the offices of the Islamic militant organisation Hamas and Yasser Arafat's compound in Ramallah.

The documents were taken to a military hangar one hour north of Tel Aviv where analysts have been sifting through them, hoping to prove a link between the Palestinian leader and terrorists. Instead, they found papers suggesting that "the Sheikh" as bin Laden is known, was alive and living in Yemen.

The intelligence is being taken so seriously by the Americans that they have moved most of their Predator Drones to Djibouti to spy over Yemen as well as some special forces, though the operational lead is being taken by British special forces which have long experience in the region.

The killing a fortnigh ago in Yemen of one of bin Laden's lieutenants by a missile fired from an unmanned US Predator drone and the capture of one of his wives suggest that they are closing in.

The long journey which bin Laden is now believed to have taken matches information given to The Telegraph in February by Maulana Abdullah Sahadi, deputy Defence Minister of the Taliban.

He insisted that he had met bin Laden at the Mowafaq hotel in Herat in October, the week after the American bombing began, and believed he had then left for south-eastern Iran to prepare his escape route.

From Iran he travelled east through the deserts of south-western Afghanistan near to his base in Jalalabad where he addressed a meeting of his followers.

He then retraced his steps west using drug-smuggling routes and switched from jeep to camel to move down through the Baluchistan desert, a vast unpopulated area of Pakistan largely off-limits to foreigners.

At the same time, convoys of land cruisers were travelling around Jalalabad region as decoys.

At Gwador, a seaport with a large amount of Arab and North African dhow traffic, he is understood to have crossed the Arabian Sea to Oman and on to the Yemeni port of Al Muhalla.

"We were very bad on boats, particularly early on," admitted an American involved in the search. "The dhows were impossible to monitor."

Bin Laden is now believed to be in the Hadhra Maug region of south-eastern Yemen, an unruly area where the tribesmen are fiercely loyal to bin Laden and hostile to the west.

Some members were involved in the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. To seal this loyalty, many of the al-Qaeda who have fled there have taken local wives, as they did in Afghanistan.

So how might thousands of experts, along with the 8,000 American soldiers and special forces who have been trying to track bin Laden's movements, have got it so wrong?

Partly, it was the reliance on information from untrustworthy sources. "They have been paying the very commanders who were helping al-Qaeda escape," claims Asim Nasser-Zia, a leading Afghan from the Jalalabad region.

The Americans admit they were used by commanders to settle feuds by claiming their enemies were sheltering al-Qaeda.

At the same time, their inability to operate in Pakistan allowed as many as 8,000 fighters to escape across the border.

Al-Qaeda has moved its headquarters to Pakistan, operatives melting away in the teeming cities of Karachi, Lahore, Quetta and Peshawar where there is much local sympathy for their cause.

The situation was complicated by elections last month in which an alliance of religious parties, led by those behind the Taliban, won a record 50 seats in parliament, making them a crucial partner in any coalition as well as giving them control of the governments in the border provinces of North West Frontier and Baluchistan.

Above all, bin Laden's band of Arabs, Chechens and North African have proved a far more fearsome enemy than anticipated.

"The Americans tell us they can see even a small goat move from their spyplanes," said a senior Afghan general, "but al-Qaeda has shown whatever technology the Americans use they can adapt."

There have been some successes. The training camps have all been destroyed. Al-Qaeda's chief military planner, Mohammed Atef, was killed.

Abu Zubaydan, the operations chief, was taken into custody in Faisalabad in March, and last month Ramzi Binalshibh, a Yemeni who was one of the key planners of the September 11 attacks, was captured in Karachi.

Yet they have not managed to catch Mullah Omar, the one-eyed Taliban leader, Haji Jamshed, said to be the chief fundraiser, or Khalid Mohammed, a Palestinian who played a key role in planning the World Trade Center attack.

In some ways, the dispersed al-Qaeda has become much more of a threat now that it has operatives in more than 60 countries.

"It's as though we stepped on a puffball sending spores out to other parts of the world," said a British intelligence official.

"We're operating in two parallel universes where political pressure is on us to get results, whereas al-Qaeda is marching to a different drummer," he added.

"They see the whole business of bringing America to its knees as taking a very long time and are prepared to wait."

truthout.org



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (9594)11/19/2002 12:15:22 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Why do we still allow OLD oil tankers with SINGLE HULLS to transport any oil on the high seas.??...This is an international outrage...Didn't we learn after the Exxon Valdez oil spill...??

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Oil Tanker Breaks, Sinks Off Spain
MAR ROMAN
Associated Press
Posted on Tue, Nov. 19, 2002

MADRID, Spain - A damaged tanker carrying more than 20 million gallons of fuel oil broke in two off the northwest coast of Spain and sank Tuesday, threatening an environmental disaster.

If the Bahamas-flagged Prestige spills its entire cargo as it sinks, the spill would be nearly twice the size of the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska. Some 10.92 million gallons of crude oil were lost from the Valdez.

"We can say goodbye to the ship and its cargo," said Lars Walder, a spokesman for SMIT salvage company.

He added that although an oil slick surrounded the vessel, its tanks appeared to be mostly intact.

The tanker ruptured last Wednesday during a storm. The salvage company estimated it had lost between 1.3 million and 2.6 million gallons of fuel so far. Most of the crew was airlifted off the ship last week.

The spill caused friction between Portugal and Spain over which government would be responsible for the clean-up, but prevailing winds put Spain's coast at a greater risk for damage from the spill

Spanish beaches were mired in oil and scores of animals were covered in sludge. Fishing was prohibited, putting hundreds out of work. The spill threatened some of the region's richest fishing grounds.

Salvage workers have said there is a chance some of the oil compartments could remain intact as they sink 11,800 feet to the sea floor, moderating the damage.

But worries about the potential for a massive environmental disaster grew. Fuel oil is more environmentally damaging than crude oil, said Maria Jose Caballero, who leads the coastal protection project for Greenpeace in Spain.

"The vessel cracked in the hull because it was very old. There's nothing that makes us believe it won't finally burst and leak all its oil," she said.

The Prestige, owned by Mare Shipping Inc., of the Bahamas, was bound for Singapore when the storm hit. The American Bureau of Shipping, a Houston-based registration company that makes sure shipping papers are in order, said the Prestige was up to date with its inspections.

The vessel, built in 1976, is operated by the Greece-based Universe Maritime, Ltd., ABS said. The ship's last annual survey was carried out in Dubai in May, and a full drydock inspection was carried out in China in May, 2001, ABS said.

A Universe Maritime spokesman complained that the damaged vessel had been exposed to storms because it had been forced so far off shore. The Spanish government had ordered the ship far from land to limit contamination.

The tanker sustained a 30- to 50-foot crack in the hull below the waterline which made it unable to proceed under its own power while salvagers sought a port to do repairs or transfer the oil to another ship.

Spanish soldiers and volunteers were cleaning up some 40 miles of coastline between Cape Finisterre and the city of A Coruna, a town about 370 miles northwest of Madrid.

As onlookers gathered along the walled shoreline of Malpica, orange-jumpsuited emergency workers tried to vacuum oil from the beach. Elsewhere, naval cadets and sailors in green rain slickers used shovels and buckets to try scoop up the sludge as it was carried in by the tide.

Sea birds floated helpless in the blackened waves and fish washed ashore. Volunteers captured about 150 of the injured animals, hoping to save their lives by cleaning off the oil.

"We've seen many dead fish and birds and many others in agony when we rescue them," said Ezequiel Navio, from the World Wildlife Fund's Spanish branch.

Spain's Interior Ministry said the ship went down in an area where Portugal had responsibility for maritime rescue operations. Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Durao Barroso said it was "absolutely sure and confirmed" by the Portuguese Navy that the tanker was lying in Spanish waters.

Both Portugal and Spain had barred the salvagers from towing the ship to any of their ports to protect their fishing and tourism industries.

The tanker's Greek captain, Apostolus Maguras, was jailed on charges of disobeying authorities and harming the environment.

In Brussels, EU officials demanded governments move faster to enforce new inspection rules that could prevent such catastrophes.

Under the rules, ports are required to check at least 25 percent of all ships coming in, starting with older, single-hull vessels. Ships flying "flags of convenience" - or registered in countries with lax safety, labor or tax rules - are to be given priority, said Gilles Gantelet, spokesman for the European Commission.

Spain's northwest coast has suffered several tanker accidents in recent years. The worst was in 1992, when the Greek tanker Aegean Sea lost 21.5 million gallons of crude oil when it ran aground near A Coruna.



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (9594)11/19/2002 1:04:55 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
Some interesting insights from Steve Roach and Morgan Stanley analysts...

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