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To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 1:47:50 PM
From: Perspective  Respond to of 436258
 
It's come pretty far pretty fast, and it's back at the resistance at 25. I guess it ain't that compelling yet, as it could get to the overhead in the mid 30s. But, I like the risk/reward there now.

BC



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 1:48:11 PM
From: gravity rules  Respond to of 436258
 
TYC is it getting your attention here? I couldn't resist the urge.



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 3:52:27 PM
From: who cares?  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Terms not disclosed. AKA deep discount.

Ford to Sell $3 Bln in Vehicle Loans to Bear Stearns

Dearborn, Michigan, Nov. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Ford Motor Co.
sold $3 billion of vehicle loans to Bear, Stearns & Co. after
concern about the company's ability to repay debt drove up
borrowing costs at the second-biggest automaker.
Ford isn't disclosing terms, spokeswoman Melinda Wilson said.
Ford manages or holds $204 billion in vehicle loans.
The transaction marks the first time Ford has sold loans
outright, and is part of efforts to lower its reliance on the
corporate bond market. The company plans to boost sales of debt
backed by auto loans, and analysts said today's loan sale gives it
another alternative for raising money.
``You don't want to gorge on one type of food,'' said Kumar
Neelakantan, who analyzes asset-backed securities at Banc of
America. ``It gives Ford more diversified funding sources.''
Investors have shied away from Ford bonds after last year's
$5.45 billion loss raised concern the company will have trouble
repaying about $70 billion in debt coming due by the end of 2005.
Some of the debt securities that make up Ford's $162 billion in
corporate debt last month traded at junk levels before rallying.
Treasurer Malcolm Macdonald said in a statement that the sale
is a ``further source of liquidity'' for Ford Motor Credit Co.,
the company's finance arm. Ford Credit held $138 billion in direct
loans on Sept. 30. The rest are managed for holders of asset-
backed bonds and other debt.
Last year's loss prompted the company to change management at
Ford Credit, which had tried to expand into new forms of lending
and increase loans to people with riskier credit histories. Ford
Credit is now concentrating on loans for vehicles sold by Ford-
owned brands.
Ford's borrowing expenses, the highest in the U.S. automotive
industry, cost the company almost $600 more for each vehicle sold
than General Motors Corp., a Lehman Brothers Holdings analyst
said. Last month, Ford's 10-year notes traded at a full percentage
point premium to General Motors bonds, according to Bloomberg
data.
Shares of Dearborn, Michigan-based Ford fell 24 cents to
$8.56 at 3:35 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading.
Ford sold 7.25 percent bonds maturing 2011 last year at a
yield spread to Treasuries of 237.5 basis points. The gap widened
to more than 600 basis points in October, and has since contracted
to about 400 basis points. One basis point equals 1/100 of a
percentage point.
The automaker is selling the loans to Bears Stearns Asset
Backed Funding Inc. Ford Credit will continue to service the
contracts for a fee, spokeswoman Wilson said.

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Copyright (c) 2002, Bloomberg, L. P.



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 5:15:09 PM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
Q threatens BK on Sunday
biz.yahoo.com

1 day later attempts to delay the inevitable
biz.yahoo.com

I don't get it.
Why is it not in the best interest of these companies to just go under and get rid of all the debt.

What am I missing?
Stupid thing was up 7% today.
GTZ regardless of new financing?

M



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 5:22:05 PM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 436258
 
LIN - Reaper that is a pretty bad chart IMO

tinyurl.com

Stalled right at resistance.
Also notice the move back up to 25 following the first bounce off 25 was on light volume. The initial pullback from 25 and the volume today was higher than the 25 retest volume so this should be about it. Perhaps a last gasp up to the 200 MA at 27 or so.

M



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 6:00:35 PM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 436258
 
LIN - Reaper that is a pretty bad chart IMO

tinyurl.com

Stalled right at resistance.
Also notice the move back up to 25 following the first bounce off 25 was on light volume. The initial pullback from 25 and the volume today was higher than the 25 retest volume so this should be about it. Perhaps a last gasp up to the 200 MA at 27 or so.

M



To: reaper who wrote (205690)11/19/2002 7:35:05 PM
From: mishedlo  Respond to of 436258
 
Delta changes pension plan.
Can you just willy nilly change these things.
How many more of these will we see.
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If successful, the change would help the nation's third largest carrier at a time when its pensions are severely underfunded. In 2003, Delta will have to spend up to $250 million in cash and take charges of up to $300 million to deal with the problem, according to Salomon Smith Barney airline analyst Brian Harris.

quicken.com

Delta will pay smaller annual amounts into its retirement funds under the new plan and transfer "more responsibility to employees for planning their future savings," the company said in a statement.

Under the new plan Delta will pay an unspecified percentage of affected employees' earnings into individualized retirement accounts, which will also earn interest based on U.S. Treasury market rates.

By contrast, Delta pays its union-represented pilots yearly retirement benefits worth 60 percent of the average of their three highest annual salaries, a spokeswoman for the Air Line Pilots Association said.

money.excite.com