And remember that cpq was traded on nyse with a specialist who liked to match 5 or 6 million shares BEFORE he reported a sale.
I wonder if hpq has the same "specialist"?
NYSE specialists could see further consolidation By Nicole Maestri and Tom Johnson NEW YORK, Nov 20 (Reuters) - As money managers rushed to sell shares of Royal Dutch Petroleum Co. <RD.AS> when it was removed from the Standard & Poor's 500 index this summer, a single New York Stock Exchange specialist suddenly found itself with a very large bill on its hands. In a matter of hours, Fleet Specialist Inc., the company that manages the trading of Royal Dutch's shares, was forced to buy roughly 11 million shares, or $462 million worth, of the company's stock to help fill all the sell orders. The purchase, which saved Royal Dutch's stock from a crippling imbalance, could have been a disaster several years ago, when a flock of smaller specialists ran share trading on the Big Board. But Fleet's successful handling of the emergency shows how larger, well-capitalized firms have come to dominate trading on the NYSE floor. But with just seven specialist firms left at the Big Board -- down from 40 a decade ago -- the question remains: Is there room for more consolidation? For many the answer is yes. "I could see it go to five," said Robert Murphy, the chief executive of LaBranche & Co. LLC, the NYSE specialist unit of LaBranche & Co. Inc.<LAB.N>. Or a new player, who does not have a presence on the floor, could enter the market and buy an existing firm, he said. "Firms are always looking for other revenue streams and are looking for other ways to be involved in different market sectors," said Murphy, who is also a vice chairman at the NYSE. "I think there's interest out there." CONSOLIDATION Specialists manage the buying and selling of individual stocks at the NYSE and step in with their own money to buy and sell shares if there is not adequate supply and demand. Traditionally, many specialist firms were independent shops that relied on one large listing for most of their revenue. But as the market grew and trading volumes exploded, specialists found they needed to lay more capital on the line. For instance, Robb Peck McCooey Specialist Corp. lost a reported $20 million on United Parcel Services Inc.'s first day of trading from selling short too many shares, industry experts said. The incident helped break up the family-run firm, which ultimately was sold. The consolidation wave means the five largest specialist firms -- LaBranche, Spear, Leeds & Kellogg, Fleet Specialist, Van der Moolen Specialists USA, and Bear Wagner Specialists LLC -- now account for more than 95 percent of the NYSE's share and dollar volume. Many of the those firms have big-name backers. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. <GS.N> owns Spear, Leeds; Fleet Specialist is a unit of FleetBoston Financial <FBF.N>; and Bear Wagner is owned by Bear Stearns Cos. <BSC.N> and Hunter Partners LLC. The remaining two smallest specialist firms, Performance Specialist Group LLC and Susquehanna Specialists Inc., have long been highlighted as possible acquisition targets. Neither firm returned phone calls seeking comment. "They're profitable," one industry source said of the two firms. "It's just hard to compete in the new world." LET THE COMPANY CHOOSE The new world means competing for clients. Instead of assigning new listings to specialists, in 1997 the NYSE began letting companies choose their specialist from a list presented to them by the Big Board. The switch has made it harder for smaller players to compete because they do not always make it onto the list of specialists offered to a new company. When they do make it on the list, they go head-to-head with better capitalized firms. "They're never going to be thrown in a pool (with other specialists) when a huge listing comes in," said an industry source. "It's just hard for them to compete." But it's not just the smaller firms facing consolidation. Another oft-mentioned target is Van der Moolen Specialists, a unit of Dutch firm Van der Moolen Holding NV <VDMN.AS>. "They have to get acquired by somebody because they are just not large enough to be a real magnet for additional listings of any size," said Jefferies & Co. analyst Charlotte Chamberlain, who owns Van der Moolen shares. Van der Moolen's listings include Cendant Corp. <CD.N>, Eli Lilly & Co. <LLY.N> and Hewlett-Packard Co. <HPQ.N>. "Do I feel like I have a target painted on my back? No," said Van der Moolen Specialists vice chairman Robert Fagenson, of being acquired. "Does the possibility exist? Obviously." BIG BANKS There is always the chance that a large investment bank could make a jump into the market or increase its current presence, industry sources said. For instance, Merrill Lynch & Co. <MER.N>, which sold its specialist operations in 1998, has been mentioned as a potential buyer. Merrill declined to comment, but sources close to Merrill said the investment bank has little interest in getting back into the business. Banks won't make a move until the market rebounds and they settle their current differences with regulators, experts say. "They have their own issues to deal with at this point," said Sang Lee, an analyst with Celent Communications. "Until that's all cleared up, I don't see any other major investment bank making moves." (( -- Wall Street Desk, 646 223-6173)) REUTERS *** end of story *** |