To: Jim Mullens who wrote (29212 ) 12/5/2002 9:10:02 PM From: Ramsey Su Respond to of 196952 Jim, a belated welcome to the thread. It appears that someone is going to be wrong with these handset projections. This is a recent article about Chinese handsets, both GSM and CDMA. I am not sure how this is going to all play out but it is most likely that some handset makers are going to be squeezed out next year. Nokia's dream of 40% market share is fading faster than that Scandanavian summer. Ericy/Sony got to be vulnerable. Sure glad qcom dumped their handset business long ago ...mobile.163.com Title: Domestic Handsets. Danger behind the prosperity. (not full translation, just highlights) 1. lacking core technology. 2. over capacity. 3. price war. Some say Chinese domestic handsets makers are heading down the same path as color TVs. ..... domestic handset makers now approaches 30% market share ..... by 2003, it is expected to exceed 50%. ..... domestic handset makers are adding capacity, with the few lead brands reaching 10 million (assume per annum). In addition, there are many looking to enter the market .... ..... wireless subs in China now exceed 200 million. It is unlikely that new subs could exceed 50 million next year. Adding replacements, the total demand may be around 80 million. Supply ..... could exceed 150 million. ..... in order to be first to market, many domestic handset makers originally are nothing more than "label manufacturers", meaning they really do not have any R&D nor manufacturing capability but rather just utilize their licensing rights for unlicensed foreign manufacturers. Later, they might have added some production lines but they are still nothing more than assemblers with the guts mainly imported from Korea and Japan. ..... according to sources, some of Samsung's high end handsets commands a profit margin as much as 150%, an astronomical figure for the domestic manufacturers. For example Bird, per their annunal report .... their net profit was less than 3%. Kejian, a purer handset maker ..... net profit was barely 2%.