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To: Neocon who wrote (322594)	11/22/2002 3:28:26 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769670

Sorry, I am called away........Take care, all.......

To: Neocon who wrote (322594)	11/22/2002 4:10:14 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Re: "It was immaterial to the discussion," >>> Actually thought it was rather relevant... to point out that China is moving away from it's Maoist heritage towards 'market economies'... but while still clinging strongly to totalitarian principles of rule. Seems an insight of some potential value.... Re: "since fascism is not defined by having a quasi- market plus a totalitarian regime, but by having a particular ideology, for example, that the individual is subordinate to the state;" >>> Sounds quite Chinese to me... throughout all recorded Chinese history, in fact. Re: "that the dictator really speaks for the Volk in an "organic democracy';" >>> Mere eyewash, typical and expected self-justification by any dictatorial ruler. They ALL claim to 'speak for the people'... even the North Korean dictator 'speaks for the people' from his God-throne. Re: "that the fate of peoples is more important than the fate of mankind or the fate of individuals;" >>> Quite Chinese, that. Re: "that hierarchy and domination is ineradicable in human affairs; that conflict is healthy; that nations are doomed to war, and that the victors are right because they have shown the greatest vitality and will to power; and so forth." >>> A bit metaphysical there, what? Methinks you construe the 'Fascist club' a bit to narrowly if they all have to have the exact same Germanic reading list... this is - after all - the 21st. Century now. Expand the allowed reading list, even Yugoslavia's rulers wouldn't meet all of your philosophical criteria above.... Anyway, who's to say China's ruling club doesn't believe these fatalistic thoughts in private?