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To: loantech who wrote (16286)11/23/2002 9:21:54 PM
From: Alan Whirlwind  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81137
 
Citizen Kane, our government indeed does lie to us, but unlike southern Africa, it does not deny the dishing out of relief food to starving people because they lack membership cards to a given political party.



To: loantech who wrote (16286)11/24/2002 7:16:22 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81137
 
Tom >I for one take umbrage and offense at this statement.

I don't think you should get upset because no offense is intended. US citizens are entitled, like anyone else, to believe whatever they wish to. That they choose to believe in their President is their business. but that they do does not pass unnoticed by others who are also free to have their opinion. I understood that that is the basis of the discussion which we have here. It has never been my approach to patronize anyone, least of all any government.

My remark was made to highlight the serious differences between the support which Bush & Co received at the recent polls and the way many other people in the world disagree that terrorism and the war against Iraq are global priorities. These were, in fact, the reasons why the GOP won overwhelmingly at the polls.

In my opinion, and in the opinion of many others, there is no substantive basis for Bush insisting on making a war in Iraq, especially before the inspectors have done their work.

Apropos the war against terrorism, IMO, all we have heard is one side of the story. In fact, I have serious doubts that bin Laden even exists or was in fact responsible for the 911 disaster. There has never been a proper inquiry. All we know is what we were told. Yet, it seems the majority of voters in the US agree with the story and are prepared to go to war against whoever on account of it.

>It almost makes me think you think us'n's are morons but with that statement maybe you are the moron.

I certainly don't say you are morons. What concerns me is that the citizens of the US are allowing their fundamental rights to be taken away under the pretext of national or homeland security. The US is moving increasingly to be a police-state but the citizens gladly accept that "security" is now more important to them than "liberty" and do nothing about what is happening. Furthermore, the notion of national security becomes international security and, as we have now seen with an expanded NATO, the US is doing whatever it can to make a coalition of international "policemen" to advance its global political aims and therefore its "empire". I find this frightening.

You may consider that I am a moron --- that is your choice --- but I can tell you that never, in my whole life, have I feared any US administration as much as I fear this one. Never before have I actually believed that the US was the cause of the problem and not its solution. I do now.

I regret that you find my opinion offensive.