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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (206576)	11/24/2002 6:07:34 PM
From: Tommaso	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Yes, our fundamentalist preachers tell us that heaven is so much nicer than earth, why worry about earth?

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (206576)	11/24/2002 6:36:44 PM
From: Terry Maloney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

KT, it's one of those feel-good things that people like to respond positively to in polls, but I don't think the average American (or anybody else for that matter) ever did, unless it jumped up and bit them on the nose ... I remember a Pueblo ranger at Mesa Verde telling me years ago that one theory why the cave-dwellers left was that they'd filled up the canyon with garbage. <g/ng>

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (206576)	11/25/2002 11:37:21 AM
From: yard_man	Respond to of 436258

many of these rules as applied to power plants lately are simply punitive -- they do nothing to improve air quality -- Beltway fools have to decide what they want to do -- improve air quality or transfer wealth in this guise. We are currently in the process of planning for additions that could add more than 1/2 billion in capital costs to our current base of 1B by near the end of the decade -- this is based on Bush's proposal, BTW. If these costs are needed to prevent harm to the air and human health -- so be it. But this New Source Review carp is extortion -- the court redefines some periodic maintenance or upgrade to call a plant a new one and say it has to meet new standards is ex post facto, no matter how you slice it -- and for the EPA to "settle" for huge fines, instead of putting the monies toward solving the problem -- all it is, is wealth transfer and some politicians making themselves look good. The problem with environmental policy in general -- is the public is never appraised of the real issues -- you can't understand the carp in a 5 second spot from Don Rather or Tom Barkoff. I think they do care. I care and I work for a power producer. We are heavily dependent on coal -- and will continue to be so. You cannot drive the price high enough to get 'cleaner' sources -- they aren't there in sufficent quantity to replace all that we get from coal -- it would cripple the economy -- most people who simply watch the news have no clue about this -- it really requires study if you want to be informed.