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To: Condor who wrote (58841)	11/25/2002 8:00:53 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

But if he vetos it, then they can filibuster the bill?? or kill it? In emergency legislation, this is not a healthy situation it would seem. If he vetos it, they can override the veto. I'm not sure if the bill gets debated again, so I don't know if a filibuster can happen (filibuster only happens during debate). I agree it's not particularly healthy, all kinds of pet things slide through under this system.

To: Condor who wrote (58841)	11/25/2002 8:38:18 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

Nobody expected Bush to veto the Homeland Security bill, based on the fact that he's been begging and pleading with Congress to pass it for months now. The session between the election (first Tuesday after the first Monday in November) and when the new Congress is sworn in (first week in January) is called a lame duck session, due to all the congress critters who will lose their seats come January. You'd think that after they took so much time off for campaigning they'd actually sit around and do their jobs, but no. They all went home for Thanksgiving and Christmas and won't be back until after New Year. If Bush vetoed the bill, it would just hang fire until January, and he didn't want that. So he had to take the bitter with the sweet. He can't go through and veto the bits he doesn't like - as Nadine pointed out, they tried that (line item veto) but the Supreme Court held that it wasn't constitutional. Congress passes the bills, the President vetoes. By going through and picking and choosing the bits he liked, that effectively allowed the President to write the laws. No can do.