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Politics : Prime Minister Jean Chretien -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (197)11/25/2002 11:22:07 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 443
 
Got to agree with a couple of things you say here [what's wrong with you tonight!], in re domestic politics, Israel

Where did i 'demonise' anybody there .... try reading the post again, it's simply a suggestion, not entirely tongue in cheek either ... of course college kids are not what they used to be back in the olden days, too button-down now, concerned more with getting than with being .. sad ... back when boys were boys and sheep ran scared college kids used to terrorise Fort Lauderdale something fierce, one old dictator would have been no match for them on an Easter weekend .... btw you missed a few presidents in your list there, Nixon Reagan Ford Bush Eisenhauer .... geee i wonder why -g- ... see, we're not that concerned with your internal party politics, true enough as the neighbours we view with concern the ramping of the militarism associated slightly more with one of the parties, but the other is not exactly composed of pure gandhis either

It was Eisenhauer who made the whole cubano mess of course, by driving the fidelistas into the hands of the russians ... before that Castro was pretty much an agrarian reformist in the zapatista style ... it was the days of McCarthyism, if you couldn't flash your johnbircher card and prove you'd tortured somebody for the CIA you were classified by the US as a Bad Guy, Fidel always had a certain arrogance to him and that sort of stuff turned him off, so his brother Raúl and friend Che being true blue commies, they swung him over after Ike got downright unreasonable, bingo there was el Máximo doing business with the stalinistas .... sad, it could have developed much differently

All these things are simple statement of fact, not a 'demonisation' of either Dubya or Fidel ... the former hasn't been around long, the latter certainly has done positive things for his people in saving them from the anexionistas and the mafiosos, but constitutes a significant net liability to them now i should think, and for a long time past .... thing is, what to do about that - how to help cubanos themselves to change their government? .... think about trying that declaration of defeat - sit Dubya down one evening with a bottle of rye to do the rough draft, then run it past the crew at Saturday Night Live, to refine it and make sure you get the full effect ... we can't know for sure, but i think that's maybe what Lao Tse would do